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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 8, 2004 22:35:19 GMT -5
Luck ain't got crap to do with it. They do sing Dennis' songs,and try to sing it like he does..why you think Terry's voice gave out? What's crazy about that? As far as the wardrobe and steps go,you giving Otis credit for that,or did he get them from someone else? You can't come at me with cliff notes,trying to spew some self-proclaimed "LOGIC" at me.No can do! Ain't nothing crazy about the truth!You IGNORE,so how can you say anything about explaination...you have to be mature enough to receive the "explaination"! Check yourself!  |
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Post by temptfan on Feb 9, 2004 6:59:15 GMT -5
I have to correct you on that one mike, they are not Dennis's songs....it's The Temptations songs. So wasn't it the same when Dennis first replaced David? didn't he sing "David's" songs? No he sang the tempts songs......the songs don't belong to the individual members just 'cause they sang lead on them |
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 10:37:12 GMT -5
I have to correct you on that one mike, they are not Dennis's songs....it's The Temptations songs. So wasn't it the same when Dennis first replaced David? didn't he sing "David's" songs? No he sang the tempts songs......the songs don't belong to the individual members just 'cause they sang lead on them No,I will correct you,they are Dennis songs,he got the Grammys to prove it. My Girl is a David Ruffin song...it was written with his voice in mind.Those songs will always belong to them.Bottom line...no corrections! |
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Post by Nupeman88 on Feb 9, 2004 13:31:25 GMT -5
Otis and the Temptations are NOT performing Dennis's songs. They are performing TEMPTATIONS songs!!! |
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 13:42:16 GMT -5
Otis and the Temptations are NOT performing Dennis's songs. They are performing TEMPTATIONS songs!!! That's what YOU think! :nono |
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Post by Nupeman88 on Feb 9, 2004 14:05:59 GMT -5
I've heard the "logic" that you are thinking....not right,but it's yours.O's boys sing Dennis' Papa Was ARolling Stone,Can't Get Next To You,etc.Same shtuff! It's not about "sides".The Review performs better...I have nothing to do with that. I agree that they shouldn't waste time on those LESSER tunes like Lady Soul and Stay. Now,on the same token would you say the same "logic" about The Tempts singing Yesterday,Let It Be,Hey Jude,Eye Of The Tiger? Were they copying the Beatles? Or were they putting their own spin on the songs? I've said that they shouldn't waste time on the songs like Stay and Lady Soul. When David Sea sings Wish It Woul Rain,unlike no other. You stated that the requirment for the Hall Of Fame Dennis didn't fit,then I've got two questions for you...1) why did they put him in there,on Otis' say,or because they liked him,or because he DESERVED IT?2) Could you justify them being inducted without him?They would not have made it without him.BOTTOM LINE! NO SIDES to be taken here,if you know anything about the Temptations! Your mimiseries,as mush as I despise it,should tell you something...they downplayed Dennis,but didn't even mention Woodson,Damon,Glenn,Bo,Theo,Joe,Gc,Rickey. What does that tell you? Dennis Edwards made an impression on somebody that the others that I named didn't. Open your eyes and don't be jealous. Riddle me that one! ;D Mike, if you interpet the movie as an intelligent person would, the movie is clearly about the origin of the Temptations and focused on the C5. I love Dennis just as much as you do, but face it.....Dennis is NOT one of the Classic five!! And what do I have to be jealous of? ???How does that come into your mind as an issue here? Please explain, because I do not understand that statement. The Tempts covered the Beatles songs to expand their fan base. Ain't nothing wrong with that. While we're on the subject, why did Rod Stewart and other's record Temptations songs? It could be that they loved them, just as the Tempts were fond of other artist's songs and covered them. I rather enjoyed the Tempts version of Yesterday. It was recorded live, and judging from the applause the recieved, the audience loved it too. Last, but not least, Mike, the Temptations didn't NEED Dennis to be inducted in the HOF. The group had already made it. The HOF lessened the requirements for induction to include Dennis. That is a fact. Anyway why would they mention G.C. or Joe in the movie? The year the movie was released was 1998, not 2003. You need to get your facts together in your brain before you put them in black and white. You state that "Stay" is a lesser tune. Why was it nominated for a grammy and went double platinum? ???I don't recall any effort's from the Review getting any airplay or nominations for anything. I bet if I called up a radio station and requested to hear "Natrually", they would not even heard of it, and YOU know that MAN. So, don't even go there with that twisted, illogical rhetoric. Just for the record, the Beatles didn't record "Eye of the Tiger". The Tempts did that song as a request from the Academy Awards. You should know that, since you KNOW everything....... |
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 14:31:19 GMT -5
Mike, if you interpet the movie as an intelligent person would, the movie is clearly about the origin of the Temptations and focused on the C5. I love Dennis just as much as you do, but face it.....Dennis is NOT one of the Classic five!! And what do I have to be jealous of? ???How does that come into your mind as an issue here? Please explain, because I do not understand that statement. The Tempts covered the Beatles songs to expand their fan base. Ain't nothing wrong with that. While we're on the subject, why did Rod Stewart and other's record Temptations songs? It could be that they loved them, just as the Tempts were fond of other artist's songs and covered them. I rather enjoyed the Tempts version of Yesterday. It was recorded live, and judging from the applause the recieved, the audience loved it too. Last, but not least, Mike, the Temptations didn't NEED Dennis to be inducted in the HOF. The group had already made it. The HOF lessened the requirements for induction to include Dennis. That is a fact. Anyway why would they mention G.C. or Joe in the movie? The year the movie was released was 1998, not 2003. You need to get your facts together in your brain before you put them in black and white. You state that "Stay" is a lesser tune. Why was it nominated for a grammy and went double platinum? ???I don't recall any effort's from the Review getting any airplay or nominations for anything. I bet if I called up a radio station and requested to hear "Natrually", they would not even heard of it, and YOU know that MAN. So, don't even go there with that twisted, illogical rhetoric. Just for the record, the Beatles didn't record "Eye of the Tiger". The Tempts did that song as a request from the Academy Awards. You should know that, since you KNOW everything....... If they didn't need Dennis to get into the Hall of fame...why is he there...explain that! Ain't nothing twisted about what I said...they would not have made it without Dennis Edwards. That's why he was included...making it 6! As far as the movie...Dennis at least had someone portray him....who played Woodson?,Damon? Glenn? Theo? Ron? Why Dennis? Especially since you say they didn't need him,and the movie was based on the C5,and Dennis is NOT C5? I guess it's twisted that they had someone play him,being that they were focusing on the C-5. Explain why you think it's twisted...it's the truth,or else Dennis would have had a seat next to Woodson,Richard Street,and Ron Tyson at the HOF induction..and that,my man is the truth! Can't deny,or get around that. I won't let you. So,let's play TWISTER!  Get YOUR facts together,bro! I'm well aware of the time frame,but I hate to break you down like this,but you asked for it...do you think that they would mention GC and Joe if the movie was made in 2004,mind you...Woodson,Damon Glenn & Theo were not mentioned and did make a contribution to the group? The difference is....they din't contribute as much as Dennis Edwards,as the movie supports what I say! Now ,get out of that TWISTED position...and THAT's THE TRUTH! Explain?  |
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 14:39:02 GMT -5
I forgot something....... :bonk: :bonk: :bonk: :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 15:02:34 GMT -5
Mike, if you interpet the movie as an intelligent person would, the movie is clearly about the origin of the Temptations and focused on the C5. I love Dennis just as much as you do, but face it.....Dennis is NOT one of the Classic five!! And what do I have to be jealous of? ???How does that come into your mind as an issue here? Please explain, because I do not understand that statement. The Tempts covered the Beatles songs to expand their fan base. Ain't nothing wrong with that. While we're on the subject, why did Rod Stewart and other's record Temptations songs? It could be that they loved them, just as the Tempts were fond of other artist's songs and covered them. I rather enjoyed the Tempts version of Yesterday. It was recorded live, and judging from the applause the recieved, the audience loved it too. Last, but not least, Mike, the Temptations didn't NEED Dennis to be inducted in the HOF. The group had already made it. The HOF lessened the requirements for induction to include Dennis. That is a fact. Anyway why would they mention G.C. or Joe in the movie? The year the movie was released was 1998, not 2003. You need to get your facts together in your brain before you put them in black and white. You state that "Stay" is a lesser tune. Why was it nominated for a grammy and went double platinum? ???I don't recall any effort's from the Review getting any airplay or nominations for anything. I bet if I called up a radio station and requested to hear "Natrually", they would not even heard of it, and YOU know that MAN. So, don't even go there with that twisted, illogical rhetoric. Just for the record, the Beatles didn't record "Eye of the Tiger". The Tempts did that song as a request from the Academy Awards. You should know that, since you KNOW everything....... Just for the record Harrahs did not host the Academy Awards...but the Tempts performed EYE OF THE TIGER at the casino. I know it's not a Beatles tune! PS,I loved the way David did Yesterday on the Tempts "LIVE". The reason Stay caught on is the MY GIRL sample! :bonk: :bonk: I don't know everything...just a little more than you. ;D |
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 15:11:49 GMT -5
Why would the Hall Of Fame lessen their requirements for Dennis....they didn't want to hurt his feelings? My feelings? Or because he DESERVED to be there? You are supposed to be an intellegent person,Nupe...why would they do this for the man? He must be a BAAADDDD MAN ! You may love him as much as I do,but what's love got to do with it? The REAL FACT IS...DENNIS EDWARDS IS In THE ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME....HOW DID HE GET THERE? ABILITY......Can't you see,or did you drink too much KRYPTONITE? You're a smart man,use your brain...don't waste it.  |
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Post by temptfan on Feb 9, 2004 16:07:42 GMT -5
They didn't need Dennis to get in to the HOF.....Otis,Eddie,Melvin,David and Paul where all they needed yo! say what you want mike but Dennis was not a Classic 5 member(1964-1968)......He was a great Temptation but i think you're to hooked on him, you should focus a little more on the GROUP!I think you're being unfair to G.C. and Joe mike.....Dennis had 20 years to make a name for himself as a Temptation, G.C. and Joe haven't even been in the group for 1 year. Give them some time and i'm sure they'll prove what they can do!
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 16:51:21 GMT -5
They didn't need Dennis to get in to the HOF.....Otis,Eddie,Melvin,David and Paul where all they needed yo! say what you want mike but Dennis was not a Classic 5 member(1964-1968)......He was a great Temptation but i think you're to hooked on him, you should focus a little more on the GROUP!I think you're being unfair to G.C. and Joe mike.....Dennis had 20 years to make a name for himself as a Temptation, G.C. and Joe haven't even been in the group for 1 year. Give them some time and i'm sure they'll prove what they can do! You should focus on what I say,instead of reacting to the way I say it. I'm hooked on the REAL Temptations..The HOF6. The further you look...the less you see.Dennis made a name for himself in under a year! MOTOWN'S FIRST GRAMMY WINNER! How soon we forget. And while your judging me without checking out the facts,I give all their props,it's just when you forget from whence you came that I have to remind you,so you know where your going.I give Otis his props when he steps up to the plate,my only complaint is that when someone's out,he should fill their spot,vocally. I don't want to hear anybody singing Woodson's songs...not even Dennis. I don't want to hear anybody singing Don't Send Me Away,but Otis...Or Just My Imagination,but Eddie,A Love I Can See,but Paul,Truly For You but Ron,not even Eddie....this is what you fail to realize. Unless they are allowed to sing in in an arrangement that fits their talent...example I Wish It Would Rain...on the cd that Dennis,Eddie,Damon,David Sea,Nate Evans& Charles Blackmon did called the Best Of The Temptations,David Sea sings the song in the same arrangement as the original, that doesn't work for me. But when he sings it like he did on his solo "Born To Sing", he takes the song to another level,one that Ruffin didn't. That's what Otis should let his members do..make the song their own. When Dennis first came to the group,they did the classics in a medley,as you can hear on Talk Of The Town. This way they can do what the members at the time perform the songs that THEY recorded. I would love to hear Ron do Sail Away,and Truly For You,instead of Just My Imagination,or Get Ready....put that in a medley. Go to your strength. This way the current members can shine and not have to be compaired to the past members. It worked before,but if you have no knowledge of that,like not hearing The Talk Of The Town,or seeing them at that time,you don't know these things. I don't hate the new members,but they have the benefit of a record company behind them,why don't they take advantage of it? I think the newer material is great and listen to it often,but to me it seems like Otis and Shelley don't have the same confidence in the newer material as I do. I have been consistant in saying this,and with that said,how do you get to say that I need to get into the GROUP? Read,then talk,don't just react to my way with words. That's like looking at an interview and focusing on SOCKS! Get it straight and pay attention...don't let others that are in DENIAL twist your views. Don't be led astray! Read my posts,go back as far as you want to,then talk to me. This is what I mean by CLIFF NOTES! You can't get by on CLIFF NOTES! :nono |
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Post by temptfan on Feb 9, 2004 17:02:53 GMT -5
Well thats just a matter of opinion mike,if you dont like the way the newer Temptations do the old songs then thats fine...but i do! i agree with you that The Temptations should perform more of their newer material from their last 4 records cuz the music is sooo damn good!  |
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 9, 2004 17:06:31 GMT -5
Well thats just a matter of opinion mike,if you dont like the way the newer Temptations do the old songs then thats fine...but i do! i agree with you that The Temptations should perform more of their newer material from their last 4 records cuz the music is sooo damn good! That is your right,but is it twisted to want the current members to get their just due like Dennis was allowed to? Illogical? Not focusing on the GROUP? |
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Post by Nupeman88 on Feb 10, 2004 1:01:43 GMT -5
Just for the record Harrahs did not host the Academy Awards...but the Tempts performed EYE OF THE TIGER at the casino. I know it's not a Beatles tune! PS,I loved the way David did Yesterday on the Tempts "LIVE". The reason Stay caught on is the MY GIRL sample!  I don't know everything...just a little more than you. ;D Mike, Mike, Mike, tst, tst, tssstt. I know that Harrah's didn't host the Academy Awards, you clown. If you listen carefully to Melvin's intoduction to the song on the Harrah's video, he explains that they were asked by the Academy Awards, to perform "Eye of the Tiger" and that they were going to sing that version at the Harrah's show...Also, do you really think that "Stay" caught on is because of three notes repeated three times? ???I guess over two million people who bought that record knew of the "My Girl" sample. Mike, most of the time, you have valid points.....But on this thread you have serious flaws even the most qualified analyst would have definite trouble trying to undestand your logic.....This is the bare fact!!! The Temptations have withstood the test of time without a Dennis Edwards in their line-up. By that same token, he is not, and I place utmost emphasis on this, NOT THE REASON, or the VECHICLE that propelled both the Temptations and Motown their first grammy. Other Motown artists and the Temptations were long overdue for a grammy prior to the Temptations releasing "Cloud Nine" You know it, the whole board knows it, HELL, even the whole world knows it. YOU make it out that Dennis alone controlled the Temptations destiny as far as recognition and fame are concerned. The Temptations were making it before and after Dennis. I really love Dennis's contributions to the Tempts, you make it out like everybody's trying to belittle and underrate Dennis. Not the case at all.  The main thing is that is being pointed out, especially to you is that the Temptations didn't achieve solely based on Dennis's contributions. It was a collective GROUP effort. It is apparent to me that Dennis can't survive professionally without using the Temptations as a crutch. Plain and simple. If he had the almost supernatural powers you seem to suggest he has, why does he cling to the Temptations moniker and repitoire? ???Why couldn't he do the same for his solo career or even the Contours or The Crowns of Joy? What if someone else took your screen name and started posting all over cyber-space? How would that make you feel? How would you react? What if you were a victim of identity theft? You get the point.....I would love to see Dennis back in the Temptations. He is a fantastic singer....one of the Temptations best. It's not up to me, you, the board, fans, that can do anything to change that. Whether you like it or not, Otis contols the Temptations. I, like you don't agree with the decisions he has made regarding the group, but it's HIS group. I don't like like the idea of all the spin-off fake groups. That applys to fake Supremes, Harold Melvin's Blue Notes, Drifters, etc. There should only be one sanctioned group. This cuts down on a lot of confusion, regarding who's legitimate. You know what I mean. Find something else, that's legitimate to make a federal case out of. |
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