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Post by ThezeThreeWordz on Feb 3, 2004 17:25:20 GMT -5
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Post by Aba21 on Feb 3, 2004 17:41:33 GMT -5
How about it? It was for EDDIE,not the TEMPTATIONS! Big difference. At least Otis' name is mentioned ! The people of the town must have their reason for Otis' absent ststue! And where would their opinions of Otis come from? Did they put statues of the others up? If so why not Otis? The town didn't make that decision, the family did. The town only gave them the land and decreed Eddie a hometown hero.....
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 3, 2004 17:50:47 GMT -5
And where would their opinions of Otis come from? Did they put statues of the others up? If so why not Otis? The town didn't make that decision, the family did. The town only gave them the land and decreed Eddie a hometown hero..... You make it sound like the family put a gun to the mayor's head. Their opinions come from what they saw. They didn't treat Melvin like that...what does that tell you? Not even the people who called Otis and told him that Woodson was badmouthing him and the group spoke up for him? Wonder why? Maybe because they moved to Philly?
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Post by ZeldaFScott on Feb 3, 2004 18:27:31 GMT -5
The town only gave them the land and decreed Eddie a hometown hero.....
So, Aba, you mean to say that this really doesn't mean a lot? Towns usually don't "give." They prefer to "take." There must have been some amount of conviction behind that deed. And that conviction was probably that Eddie Kendricks was an accomplished artist and son of the city of whom one had many reasons to be proud of.
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Post by temptfan on Feb 5, 2004 10:43:09 GMT -5
I consider myself to be a much bigger Temptations fan than YOU mike! I have no reason to kiss Otis butt, i admire and respect him for what he's accomplished....going through the 60's, the 70's , the 80's, the 90's up on until today without giving up his dream. Face it, he's the reason why The Temptations are still here today... you can say whatever you want about that he's only in it for the money or any ignorant comment like that but he's a true leader and performer. Do you even like The Temptations, or was it just when Dennis was a member? No man is bigger than the group, a TRUE Temptations fan will support and love the group no matter what!......any lineup from the 60's 'til the year 2000 are The Temptations.......you sound more like a Dennis Edwards/tempts review fan than a Temptations fan dude! Stop being so bitter that The Temptations are still having so much succes and stop bitching about how Otis is messing up Dennis life. I agree with Otis that the review shouldn't be around anymore and that Dennis should have moved on from The Temptations a long time ago. I would love to see him back with the tempts but NOT with the review, stop using The Temptations name Dennis,please!. MUCH LOVE/SUPPORT/RESPECT TO OTIS,RON,TERRY,G.C. AND JOE (The Temptations). Temptations 4-ever!
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Post by Aba21 on Feb 5, 2004 15:03:20 GMT -5
The town only gave them the land and decreed Eddie a hometown hero..... So, Aba, you mean to say that this really doesn't mean a lot? Towns usually don't "give." They prefer to "take." There must have been some amount of conviction behind that deed. And that conviction was probably that Eddie Kendricks was an accomplished artist and son of the city of whom one had many reasons to be proud of. Having worked in the County Government offices for a number of years and being knowledgable on these kinds of things, it had to serve some politician for this to go through in the first place.....someone in the office championed this cause...and yes it was huge to have your home town dedicate a park in your name....once again we seem to lose sight of the point....was Otis williams a Temptation? Yes! Did they erect statues of the other Temptations in this park? Yes! Did Otis get one? No! Why? Because of some personal reason that the family did not want his statue up there. That's fine but don't expect one to do the right thing when the other is not doing it as well? I don't have all the reasons Otis was neglected in that way.....I know some of them but I mention it only to say that if I had a museum about the Temptations and left out David Ruffin's bust, would it truely be a Temptation museum? Hell no!!! I'm only saying if you put one statue up, put them all up. I would have been very comfortable with just two statues of Paul & Eddie and the rest to have plaques, but to do what they did and obviously make you know he wasn't forgotten but wasn't worthy to stand next to the rest, I didn't like. Just my opinion.
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 5, 2004 15:08:09 GMT -5
I consider myself to be a much bigger Temptations fan than YOU mike! I have no reason to kiss Otis butt, i admire and respect him for what he's accomplished....going through the 60's, the 70's , the 80's, the 90's up on until today without giving up his dream. Face it, he's the reason why The Temptations are still here today... you can say whatever you want about that he's only in it for the money or any ignorant comment like that but he's a true leader and performer. Do you even like The Temptations, or was it just when Dennis was a member? No man is bigger than the group, a TRUE Temptations fan will support and love the group no matter what!......any lineup from the 60's 'til the year 2000 are The Temptations.......you sound more like a Dennis Edwards/tempts review fan than a Temptations fan dude! Stop being so bitter that The Temptations are still having so much succes and stop bitching about how Otis is messing up Dennis life. I agree with Otis that the review shouldn't be around anymore and that Dennis should have moved on from The Temptations a long time ago. I would love to see him back with the tempts but NOT with the review, stop using The Temptations name Dennis,please!. MUCH LOVE/SUPPORT/RESPECT TO OTIS,RON,TERRY,G.C. AND JOE (The Temptations). Temptations 4-ever! You can consider yourself whatever you want. You know that's NOT TRUE. I"give you a hand for your bold,but foolish statement. :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: The bitching comes from you cryin about Otis! The Review is getting stronger,no matter how many times you & Otis click your heels and point your heads to the sky wishing that they would go away.I don't feel the same way about otis group. All they gotta do is take it to the stage,then they WILL be gone...and the Review will be left standing. You sound stupid to doubt weather I'm a fan or not,I don't have to prove anything to you. You can let them put anybody in front of you and say that they are the Temptations,and you'll be happy...I'm not that thirsty! Too bad you don't have a clue as to who,or what the Temptations are about. And you have the NERVE to say I'm not a Temptations fan? That's funny,DUDE!
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 5, 2004 15:13:54 GMT -5
Having worked in the County Government offices for a number of years and being knowledgable on these kinds of things, it had to serve some politician for this to go through in the first place.....someone in the office championed this cause...and yes it was huge to have your home town dedicate a park in your name....once again we seem to lose sight of the point....was Otis williams a Temptation? Yes! Did they erect statues of the other Temptations in this park? Yes! Did Otis get one? No! Why? Because of some personal reason that the family did not want his statue up there. That's fine but don't expect one to do the right thing when the other is not doing it as well? I don't have all the reasons Otis was neglected in that way.....I know some of them but I mention it only to say that if I had a museum about the Temptations and left out David Ruffin's bust, would it truely be a Temptation museum? Hell no!!! I'm only saying if you put one statue up, put them all up. I would have been very comfortable with just two statues of Paul & Eddie and the rest to have plaques, but to do what they did and obviously make you know he wasn't forgotten but wasn't worthy to stand next to the rest, I didn't like. Just my opinion. Why say the family had that done? Others could have given them reason not to put Otis' statue up there,heck Paul's family didn't speak up for Otis,Dennis,or Woodson. They are from the same town as Eddie. Why include Melvin? Must be more than the Kendrick family that didn't want otis up there.
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Post by temptfan on Feb 5, 2004 15:24:18 GMT -5
Yeah i think it's really funny. You're just a review fan...your not a Temptations fan!
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Post by temptfan on Feb 5, 2004 15:29:26 GMT -5
Yeah i think it's really funny. You're just a review fan...your not a Temptations fan! so why don't you tell me what The Temptations is all about..........i'm sorry but you and me are two completely different types of fans. I'm tired of this argument and i don't feel like discussing with you anymore about this. Temptations 4-ever!
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Post by Aba21 on Feb 5, 2004 15:36:25 GMT -5
Why say the family had that done? Others could have given them reason not to put Otis' statue up there,heck Paul's family didn't speak up for Otis,Dennis,or Woodson. They are from the same town as Eddie. Why include Melvin? Must be more than the Kendrick family that didn't want otis up there. once again it is not a matter of who's fault it is, it is about the fact that 20, 30 years from now even more, people will go into that park and see five statues of men who never all sang together as Temptations.....the plaque will look like Otis is a footnote in Temptations history and that is just not true. Even with all the stuff going on now and the way many of us feel about Otis and what has gone down the pike, to me is an injustice and once again serves to prove that we as a people spend more time knocking each other than building each other up. Babe Ruth was notorius in his behavior and they way he treated his teammates and fans alike at times....Many of his exploits never made the news...but if you have a conversation about baseball, you have to include Babe Ruth. If you talk about the Temptation history, then you have to include Otis whether you like him or hate him....Putting five stautes together of men who didn't sing together as a group and leaving Otis out is a slap in his face and historically inaccurate. there is no reason anyone could justify it that wasn't personal.
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 5, 2004 15:39:06 GMT -5
Yeah i think it's really funny. You're just a review fan...your not a Temptations fan! so why don't you tell me what The Temptations is all about..........i'm sorry but you and me are two completely different types of fans. I'm tired of this argument and i don't feel like discussing with you anymore about this. Temptations 4-ever! Then jump in a glass of water and dissolve! I don't care what your assesment of me is...this board is NOT to discuss me,or you.This board is to discuss your feelings about the temptations...I'm not up for discussion,but if you want to make me the topic...be my guest,just don't cry when I respond in the same manner to you. You don't want that...I don't want that for you.But if you push me.......expect to be pushed back. If you want to discuss something fine,but don't run away from responsibility like Justin Timberlake......saying you didn't have anything to do with exposing me and you were the one to pull the cover off.Think about what your getting yourself into! That's the last bit of advise that I have for you,turn the tables. Be a smart man and take this advise! :yourock:
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 5, 2004 15:51:58 GMT -5
And where would their opinions of Otis come from? Did they put statues of the others up? If so why not Otis? The town didn't make that decision, the family did. The town only gave them the land and decreed Eddie a hometown hero..... This is the only reason I mentioned Families,because you asked this question,remember?
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 5, 2004 16:02:20 GMT -5
once again it is not a matter of who's fault it is, it is about the fact that 20, 30 years from now even more, people will go into that park and see five statues of men who never all sang together as Temptations.....the plaque will look like Otis is a footnote in Temptations history and that is just not true. Even with all the stuff going on now and the way many of us feel about Otis and what has gone down the pike, to me is an injustice and once again serves to prove that we as a people spend more time knocking each other than building each other up. Babe Ruth was notorius in his behavior and they way he treated his teammates and fans alike at times....Many of his exploits never made the news...but if you have a conversation about baseball, you have to include Babe Ruth. If you talk about the Temptation history, then you have to include Otis whether you like him or hate him....Putting five stautes together of men who didn't sing together as a group and leaving Otis out is a slap in his face and historically inaccurate. there is no reason anyone could justify it that wasn't personal. In order to talk about professional Basketball,you can't have a conversation on the subject without mentioning Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,nobody scored more points than him....talk about CHAMPIONSHIP basketball,you can't do that without mentioning Bill Russell,who nobody in history has a better CHAMPIONSHIP winning percentage,or more rings...in ANY SPORT. Why do idiots think Jordan was the best? Politics.Media hype.Or just plain ingornance? It's a slap in Russell's face and Jabbar's(who has just as many rings as Jordan)How many players you know only lost one game in their college career?
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Post by MikeNYC on Feb 5, 2004 16:10:36 GMT -5
go ahead and shut down the guest posting board then ivory...i don't feel like coming back to this place no more anyway cause all i hear lately is negative talk about the present Temptations and Otis and thats something i don't wanna hear! I only want positive thoughts about the group/members.....former or present! And if there's someone who needs to be shut down, it's that Truth character...........cause he obviously wants The Temptations to retire. You may blame me for using foul language but don't blame me for expressing my opinion......i stand for what i say! So does everybody else on this board. You can't shut the truth down! So,if you can't take the heat.......don't stand near the stove. ;D
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