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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 19, 2003 12:46:56 GMT -5
"Sustained attack" baby doll, I said "SUSTAINED ATTACK"!  |
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Post by Aba21 on Mar 19, 2003 12:51:23 GMT -5
Oh I'm your Baby Doll.......it's so nice to be Special!!!!!
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Post by sukkafu on Mar 19, 2003 16:05:44 GMT -5
new kind of warfare! use planes in buildings, undercover water supply poisoners, anthrax letters,
spread fear and without bringing troops %
operate within society, causing vulnerability and spreading fear!
tickets are down 40 % in sales. us airways is bankrupt,
united airlines is near LIQUIDATION, american airlines is near bankruptcy, delta is in srious trouble-the economy is very unstable.
that sounds like the way to mess with america to me.
kill a few folks here and there.it's costing us billions to be on the lookout at home.
i'd like to see the gas price go down- then i can buy it!
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Post by Cadeho on Mar 19, 2003 23:09:11 GMT -5
All I can say Ivory is an ounce of prevention..........  So you will let yourself be attacked before you respond? We are the wealthiest, strongest nation in the world and we should sit back and let others do what they want in terms of world threat. I don't understand it. You wnatr to hide in the closet. These people are not afraid to die for what they believe. It seems you must be. We'd live in paranoia and martial law. Reverse our policies and remember we still share this planet, then things may change for the better. There are millions out there with the same feelings Saddam has, do we round them all up and kill them? That would be preventive. Then we'd also be on the same level as the Nazis committing genocide. |
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Post by Cadeho on Mar 19, 2003 23:13:46 GMT -5
If we were serious about finding an alternative to gas for our transportation, we could use that and let them have their oil.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 20, 2003 20:51:11 GMT -5
Aba, what if we wake up tomorrow and terrorists have attacked the Empire State Building, or the Sears Tower, or the Capitol, White House? I realize the chances of that aren't high, but speaking hypothetically. Will your little war be worth it? Surely you don't think this war can STOP terrorism? Terrorism is just poor folks warfare. The only thing separating us from Al Qaeda is money.
Remember what Dr. King said, "in an eye for an eye, we all end up blinded."
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 20, 2003 21:01:27 GMT -5
Now I'll tell you something that bugs me, it's all the war protestors. The one negative result of the Civil Rights movement is that people are too quick to take to the streets for whatever cause. Those involved in the CR movement had no other choice. Their elected leaders were intentionally violating their civil rights, and years of court cases to stop them had failed. Protest was their only option (short of violence of course, speaking of which, hmm... non-violence, what a novel idea, anyway...) But now if someone believes in a cause off they go to interrupt traffic, over-tax the already over-taxed police, and waste the public's money. So here are all of these war protestors and all they are doing is causing a headache. They need to take that energy, build up a STRONG democratic party that can produce a viable candidate who can get "Junior" out of office. (Did y'all hear me laugh when "Saddam" called the President "Junior." You have to admit, that was kinda funny.)  |
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Post by sukkafu on Mar 20, 2003 22:38:40 GMT -5
he said little i think? if it was saddam!  it isn't aba's little war, it's all of us together, backing kikiaj and the families. |
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Post by KEEKS on Mar 20, 2003 23:25:42 GMT -5
Now I'll tell you something that bugs me, it's all the war protestors. The one negative result of the Civil Rights movement is that people are too quick to take to the streets for whatever cause. Those involved in the CR movement had no other choice. Their elected leaders were intentionally violating their civil rights, and years of court cases to stop them had failed. Protest was their only option (short of violence of course, speaking of which, hmm... non-violence, what a novel idea, anyway...) But now if someone believes in a cause off they go to interrupt traffic, over-tax the already over-taxed police, and waste the public's money. So here are all of these war protestors and all they are doing is causing a headache. They need to take that energy, build up a STRONG democratic party that can produce a viable candidate who can get "Junior" out of office. (Did y'all hear me laugh when "Saddam" called the President "Junior." You have to admit, that was kinda funny.) Now I will say that also bugs me.. The leadership or the "powers that be" whatever you prefer to call them have made their decision on the action and role we will take in the "War on Terrorism" so since that decision has been made what good is it going to do to protest it. Just because the President sees some folks on the street exercising their right to protest doesn't mean he is gonna run in and call an emergency meeting to possible rethink his earlier decision. I understand that the protesters want to be heard, but I feel it is a little late in the game to continue to protest. Now would be a good time for them to unite and support what decision has been made. Believe me he knows exactly who is, and isn't, in favor of what he is doing. Those of us in the military chose this career field...do you all have any idea what it is like to keep your morale up and to stay focused on a "mission" that continues to get delayed? Then you have some soldiers who are young fresh out of highschool about to go off and fight for this country and when he looks at the NEWS he sees his fellow Americans protesting against what it is he must do. How does that guy stay focused on the task at hand...huh? How do I as a leader to that young man continue to try to teach him and train him and prepare him for whats to come...when he can flip on the TV news, come back to me and say "I don't know why we are going there...1/2 OUR OWN COUNTRY doesn't want us to go"...what do I do guys...you see that is my point. We may not all agree...as a matter of fact we can agree to disagree..but whats done is done and the choice has been made...so now we need to stick together. |
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Post by KEEKS on Mar 20, 2003 23:27:31 GMT -5
Aba, Ivory, Sukkafu, Peach, Jonel..Cadeho...and everyone else...group hug...lol  |
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Post by sukkafu on Mar 21, 2003 1:07:17 GMT -5
FOR UNITED WE STAND,DIVIDED WE FALL, AND IF OUR BACKS SHOULD EVER BE AGAINST THE WALL WE'LL BE TOGETHER, TOGETHER-YOU AND I  9-) 9-) 9-) 9-) 5-) 1*-) |
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Post by Peach on Mar 21, 2003 9:45:33 GMT -5
I agree about the war protestors.... they are not only jamming up traffic (which burns up GAS, people!) there is violence occurring during these protests! Tell me, isn't that ironic? news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=world&cat=antiwar_movement"...pockets of protesters in San Francisco scuffled with police, broke windows and heaved newspaper racks and debris into streets. Some protesters hurled rocks at trains, briefly halting service at a station in nearby Oakland. "We went from what I would call legal protests to absolute anarchy," Assistant Police Chief Alex Fagan Sr. said.....In Portland, Ore., protesters smashed in three windows at a McDonald's restaurant, set a flag on fire and sprayed graffiti on a sign at a Shell gas station. More than 100 people were arrested. "I like the idea of shutting down commerce and the city to counteract Bush's economic motives for this war," said Eric Anholt, 19, of Portland. " ------------------------------------------ I kind of like what Dennis Miller said about Iraq: Here are 10 things to consider when voicing an opinion on this important issue: 1) President Bush and Saddam Hussein.....Hussein is the bad guy. 2) If you have faith in the United Nations to do the right thing, keep this in mind. They have Libya heading the Committee on Human Rights and Iraq heading the Global Disarmament Committee. Do your own math here. 3) If you use Google Search and type in "French Military Victories," your reply will be "Did you mean French Military Defeats?" 4) If your only anti-war slogan is "No war for oil," sue your school district for allowing you to slip through the cracks and robbing you of the education you deserve. 5) Saddam and Bin Laden will not seek United Nations approval before they try to kill us. 6) Despite what some seem to believe, Martin Sheen is NOT the President. He just plays one on TV. 7) Even if you are anti-war, you are still an "Infidel" and Bin Laden wants you dead, too. 8) If you believe in a "vast right-wing conspiracy," but not in the danger that Hussein poses, quit hanging out with the Dell computer dude. 9) We are not trying to liberate them. 10) Whether you are for military action, or against it, our young men and women overseas are fighting for us to defend our right to speak out. We all need to support them without reservation. And I think I will surrender after this post.  And you know I love all of you!! GROUP HUG is right, Laura!!! Peach |
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 21, 2003 10:35:40 GMT -5
he said little i think?
Nope, he said "Junior Bush" or at least that's what the translator said when I was listening to him on CNN. But "little" is kinda funny too! it isn't aba's little war, it's all of us together, backing kikiaj and the families.
Oh, I defnately back all of the military, but this is NOT *MY* war! (((((Kiki)))))) Despite what some seem to believe, Martin Sheen is NOT the
President.He is too! Darn it!!! 
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Post by Aba21 on Mar 21, 2003 13:05:36 GMT -5
If you just sit back for one minute and think. President Bush didn't wake up one morning and say let's go blow them sons of bi#@$^@ up. He HAS exhausted all means of diplomacy. That's why none of you can't come up with some other option other than war to stop this madness. If there was one, they would have found it. We are not at war because we want to be.
I hate war but I love America. There was a time when black people didn't say that they loved this country. But after living in and visiting countries around the world, I wouldn't trade what we have here for anything or anywhere in the world.
It is hard to accept tough decisions that could cost lives. Real humans don't cotton to seeing anything or anybody killed. That I understand very well. But what I also understand is whether or not you have family or friends involved in this war we still must suppoort them. They volunteered for this job. They weren't drafted like me they volunteered. What did you think they volunteered for....to play war games. Why are we spending so muchmoney on the miltary if and when a crisis arises we can't use them. As kikiaj said it is a career they chose and they know what goes with that choice. There is nothing to discuss. They get education, housing, and many other benefits for choosing to be in the military.
As far as the UN is concerned there is a big article in the Time Magazine reagrding the UN's inability over the years to make dscisions during crisis situations and what price has been paid as a result of their ineptness.
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Post by iratherlikeme on Mar 21, 2003 13:40:03 GMT -5
Are you sure?  We the American people probably don't, but he seemed in an awful hurry to get this thing started. Some of them were probably thinking about getting money for schooling. How many people actually think about going to war when they sign up for the military (during peace times)? I thought about joining a military reserve so that I could serve a little bit and get money for school in the process. I didn't think about war not once. It just didn't seem like a possibility when I was considering joining the military. Personally, I don't care about what the UN has done and what it hasn't done. I do care about how the US (particularly the government) has shown no regard for rules. Other countries see what the United States has done (gone over the UN's head) and they will do that too, if they feel like it. If we can do it, why can't they? My whole thing is this: If a country gave our leader an ultimatum, get out of your country or else, what would he have done? Stayed exactly where he was and fought. But another leader can't do the same? That's just a tad hypocritical. I'm not saying that Hussein is right in the way he rules his country and treats the people of his country who protest against him, but if I were him I'd also object to the way this is being handled. I don't think Ivory meant by "not my war" that she wasn't behind the troops. She may have meant that she wasn't behind the reasoning for this war and she wasn't behind the methods used to get to this point. I don't know... that's about how I feel anyway. |
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So you will let yourself be attacked before you respond? We are the wealthiest, strongest nation in the world and we should sit back and let others do what they want in terms of world threat. I don't understand it. You wnatr to hide in the closet. These people are not afraid to die for what they believe. It seems you must be.
