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Post by Aba21 on Jun 22, 2004 0:18:26 GMT -5
Please tell me the criteria you use to say that the Review is better than the Temptations. If you mean Dennis is better than Otis as a singer then I agree..........but I don't understand how you have come to this conclusion, other than it's the way *you* feel. I haven't even seen those who support the Review come out and say that. They may say they love the Review but the only one I hear saying that they prefer the Review is Peach. At least she will speak her mind and and make a choice.
How do you define it? To me they both perform and perform well. Under the present situation, Otis group performs more and makes more money and and play bigger venues. Many would say that makes them better. What the Review has is a HOF lead singer that can still sing his songs and sing them well.......that's it. If they ace Otis out of a gig today its because of money. ANd to what extent does saying they are better than the Temptations change those things I mentioned. People are still paying to see both. I wouldn't discourage anyone who is a fan of the singers not to see both. Is it really necessary to choose one over the other?
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 22, 2004 0:48:08 GMT -5
Please tell me the criteria you use to say that the Review is better than the Temptations. If you mean Dennis is better than Otis as a singer then I agree..........but I don't understand how you have come to this conclusion, other than it's the way *you* feel. I haven't even seen those who support the Review come out and say that. They may say they love the Review but the only one I hear saying that they prefer the Review is Peach. At least she will speak her mind and and make a choice. How do you define it? To me they both perform and perform well. Under the present situation, Otis group performs more and makes more money and and play bigger venues. Many would say that makes them better. What the Review has is a HOF lead singer that can still sing his songs and sing them well.......that's it. If they ace Otis out of a gig today its because of money. ANd to what extent does saying they are better than the Temptations change those things I mentioned. People are still paying to see both. I wouldn't discourage anyone who is a fan of the singers not to see both. Is it really necessary to choose one over the other? Look at the battle of the bands thread. It was started with that very idea that you state in mind. But,upon further Review....seems like the people liked the review more that anticipated. I loved it. They took the let's take it to the stage-bit-and got their feelings hurt. As far as changing things,hell if people like denial,why should I change them? They can't change me,but I have more to work with than they do. When I saw the Review in Yonkers,I was standing in the wings and I heard something that I haven't heard since I was 11 years old,their feet hitting the floor while they were doing the steps. Over the music,you can hear every step they made. I must correct something I said in this post...I heard the feet another time...REUNION ! I don't ask anyone to go see the Review over Otis' group,hell I want elbow room. Even Ivory,who IGNORES most of the thinhgs I say,enjoyed the Review. To sum it up,I don't care who perfers what,if they want to waste money on IMITATIONS,that's on them. I want to hear SINGING,not riffing. At least I get to hear some tunes done by the man who recorded them. Can't say that when you spend money with Otis. In my day,nobody did it better than a group called The Temptations. That is no longer true,today! And,you know it. :laughing I think quite a few would pay to see the miniseries actors give a concert,would you? I wouldn't.
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Post by kim on Jun 22, 2004 9:04:30 GMT -5
I don't know what's so surprising or "bold making" about him saying he needs that name. SO DOES OTIS. Otis could not tour as merely "Otis Williams." Everyone (except us fanatics) would be saying,"Who the hell is that?" Good, sensible article..... classy, as usual. Peach Nothing surprising I felt the need to bold because folks are so quick to say that Otis needs the name The Temptations in order to be recognized but so does Dennis. I think its quite obvious considering he calls himself a Review of The Temptations. Otis has only toured as a Temptations so I'm not understanding your comment. Otis was never known as a lead singer good dancer, that's why he stayed in one group and one place for the last 42 years. Dennis however tried a solo career that never really got off the ground he is more recognizeable as a Temptations. Yes he is a HOF inductee but that doesn't equate to solo success.
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Post by Peach on Jun 22, 2004 9:06:26 GMT -5
Please tell me the criteria you use to say that the Review is better than the Temptations. If you mean Dennis is better than Otis as a singer then I agree..........but I don't understand how you have come to this conclusion, other than it's the way *you* feel. I haven't even seen those who support the Review come out and say that. They may say they love the Review but the only one I hear saying that they prefer the Review is Peach. At least she will speak her mind and and make a choice. And, as everyone knows, my preference has nothing to do with The Temptations not being good! I will staunchly defend them and their show to anyone who asks. Peach
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Post by Peach on Jun 22, 2004 9:09:55 GMT -5
Nothing surprising I felt the need to bold because folks are so quick to say that Otis needs the name The Temptations in order to be recognized but so does Dennis. I think its quite obvious considering he calls himself a Review of The Temptations. Otis has only toured as a Temptations so I'm not understanding your comment. Otis was never known as a lead singer good dancer, that's why he stayed in one group and one place for the last 42 years. Dennis however tried a solo career that never really got off the ground he is more recognizeable as a Temptations. Yes he is a HOF inductee but that doesn't equate to solo success. No, it doesn't....and it doesn't for a lot of group members who try solo. And we can't say definitively that it is because they aren't good enough....it could be a combination of many factors....song selection, production, etc. We can't say. I don't see anything wrong with being identified with a group. Period. It happens to a lot of artists whose success came by being a member of something as great as The Temptations. Peach
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Post by Ivory Fair on Jun 22, 2004 9:12:27 GMT -5
Whoa Nelly!!!! There has never been a group AS great as the Temptations. Let's just stop that business right now!!!!
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Post by Peach on Jun 22, 2004 9:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 22, 2004 10:08:50 GMT -5
Nothing surprising I felt the need to bold because folks are so quick to say that Otis needs the name The Temptations in order to be recognized but so does Dennis. I think its quite obvious considering he calls himself a Review of The Temptations. Otis has only toured as a Temptations so I'm not understanding your comment. Otis was never known as a lead singer good dancer, that's why he stayed in one group and one place for the last 42 years. Dennis however tried a solo career that never really got off the ground he is more recognizeable as a Temptations. Yes he is a HOF inductee but that doesn't equate to solo success. When you gonna start being bold?This is funny,entertaining to say the least. This is a nice article and thanks for sharing. But this is in the same light as declaring Eddie Kendrick a "one-hit wonder". The same light as David's solo career outlook from this same source,it was wrong the first time..and wrong now. I don't call this bold. I call it a joke. Truth be told,Dennis solo career was much better than Woodson's,Bo,s Theo's and Damon's put together. When she learns about the business,she will laugh at this thread just like I am. Yes ,Otis does need the name much more than Dennis. Now,if you really want to learn something,listen to Dennis' audio interview.Maybe then,you will be bold. But this is funny,maybe Eddie Murphy can use this thread for his standup routine....he would never be a cartoon character again.! This did not deliver the message it was intended to. I mean,after all isn't this the same source that said Eddie was a "one hit wonder"? How can I read this with a straight face? How can anybody read this with a straight face? Let's Ride ! :laughing
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 22, 2004 10:16:46 GMT -5
Whoa Nelly!!!! There has never been a group AS great as the Temptations. Let's just stop that business right now!!!! How would you know,you ignore the other groups? Back in the day,no group did it better than the group called The Temptations,this is no longer true,today. The Temptations Review is much better than the group the court appointed the name Temptations to. Plus,the Review stays together. :laughing
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Post by kim on Jun 22, 2004 10:27:18 GMT -5
When you gonna start being bold?This is funny,entertaining to say the least. This is a nice article and thanks for sharing. But this is in the same light as declaring Eddie Kendrick a "one-hit wonder". The same light as David's solo career outlook from this same source,it was wrong the first time..and wrong now. I don't call this bold. I call it a joke. Truth be told,Dennis solo career was much better than Woodson's,Bo,s Theo's and Damon's put together. When she learns about the business,she will laugh at this thread just like I am. Yes ,Otis does need the name much more than Dennis. Now,if you really want to learn something,listen to Dennis' audio interview.Maybe then,you will be bold. But this is funny,maybe Eddie Murphy can use this thread for his standup routine....he would never be a cartoon character again.! This did not deliver the message it was intended to. I mean,after all isn't this the same source that said Eddie was a "one hit wonder"? How can I read this with a straight face? How can anybody read this with a straight face? Let's Ride ! Eddie had two hits on the pop chart not one two get it right. And if Dennis doesn't need the name he wouldn't use it. You said that he is most recognized by being a Temptation the only difference between him and Otis is that he never left because he knew he couldn't make a living without the name Dennis didn't. Your post are the same old same old thing Mike. Downing Otis in order to lift up Dennis. It doesn't equate to The Review being a better group it just equates to your disdain for the fact that Otis is last of the original Tempts and you are angry because he is. The Review is a replacement group and so are the current Temptations oh well. And "Let's Ride" was a hit in your cd player. :laughing :laughing
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Post by mcribs on Jun 22, 2004 10:28:22 GMT -5
:nono There you go again, Mike...condescending. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and does not have to pass your qualifying test to form one! Stop being the thought police.
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 22, 2004 10:53:45 GMT -5
There you go again, Mike...condescending. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and does not have to pass your qualifying test to form one! Stop being the thought police. It's called discussion.Try it.
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Post by mcribs on Jun 22, 2004 11:00:19 GMT -5
Mike, honey, if you want to invite dialog, you might try not telling people that they don't know anything, that they don't have a clue, etc. No one likes to play with the bully on the playground, you know! I have no problem having a discussion with you, but once you start insulting my intelligence and invalidatind my opinions, you need to be put in check. As you so often point out, you don't know anything about me!
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 22, 2004 11:01:57 GMT -5
Eddie had two hits on the pop chart not one two get it right. And if Dennis doesn't need the name he wouldn't use it. You said that he is most recognized by being a Temptation the only difference between him and Otis is that he never left because he knew he couldn't make a living without the name Dennis didn't. Your post are the same old same old thing Mike. Downing Otis in order to lift up Dennis. It doesn't equate to The Review being a better group it just equates to your disdain for the fact that Otis is last of the original Tempts and you are angry because he is. The Review is a replacement group and so are the current Temptations oh well. And "Let's Ride" was a hit in your cd player. As far as Eddie's hit's go I did get it right Eddie had a very successful solo career. As for Dennis,if he didn't add something to the name,he wouldn't use it. As far as equating anything,the battle thread did that for me.I didn't evn have to ask for it. I'm confused about something,maybe you can help me out on this,if you will? Is telling the truth about the business downong Otis? Aren't you trying to down Eddie,David,Paul & Dennis in order to uplift Otis? Last,but not least,are you trying to tell me that I'm mad because Otis is the only survivor of the c5? There is no disatain in telling the truth.Which is what I'm doing...nothing changed. :laughing temptsinfo.com/smilies/wtg.gif
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 22, 2004 11:13:21 GMT -5
Mike, honey, if you want to invite dialog, you might try not telling people that they don't know anything, that they don't have a clue, etc. No one likes to play with the bully on the playground, you know! I have no problem having a discussion with you, but once you start insulting my intelligence and invalidatind my opinions, you need to be put in check. As you so often point out, you don't know anything about me! You don't know anything about me,so you don't have a clue. That I can say,and will say. About the group,nobody is bullying anybody,most of all you. I tell someone that they don't know about the business,if they show themselves in that light.Like going to the pool,if you can't swim,do you jump in the deep water? As far as insulting your intelligence and invalidating your opinions,that's the way you want to take it. I know that you have some intelligence that's why I as QUESTIONS,which is what one should do when trying to understand someone else,or am I wrong? Personal attacks,I've delt with and disposed of. That's why I ask QUESTIONS. No test,but if you feel like that,maybe you should try to look at it in the spirit that it was given..in a form of discussion.Nothing to be intimidated about. Just bring what you know.Like I do. And stop being so negative,we are having a discussion,and if there is any fear,it's fear of the truth coming out.Anytime you want to discuss this with me,you can IM me.I answer my IM's. ;D
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