DAVID SUES MOTOWN

[MikeNYC]

MikeNYC said:

But,Aba...let's be real....a song is yours if you wrote it.
Plus,even Otis gives the songs to the singer when he talks about it in his book. (Dennis can handle David's songs) I agree about the Man's rights,but the right does not include wronging others. Why sue Woodson for a song that he wrote? This must be what you mean when you say "DEAD WRONG". That,it is.

This one? This is post#19. You got it wrong.

[MikeNYC]

Nupeman88 said:

I did not get the conversation wrong. You just mis-interpeted my post, as usual Mike. I was referring to post #19, clearly two different things. I was responding to both of the comments you made.

Yes,and you got it wrong .I did not mis-interpet anything.

[Nupeman88]

MikeNYC said:

This one? This is post#19. You got it wrong.

Nope, I know exactly what you were talking about. You were talking about two different things. The only mis-interpertation eas by you comprehending my reply to post # 19. As usual.

[MikeNYC]

Nupeman88 said:

Nope, I know exactly what you were talking about. You were talking about two different things. The only mis-interpertation eas by you comprehending my reply to post # 19. As usual.

Never that. You just got lost. And you know it. Denial...such a horrible thing. You should seek help for that disorder. It follows you from thread to thread. :laughing

[Nupeman88]

MikeNYC said:

Never that. You just got lost. And you know it. Denial...such a horrible thing. You should seek help for that disorder. It follows you from thread to thread.

:sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: Again, as usual Mike. You are putting me to sleep with how your logic works on things. One thing for sure, you never deviate from your MO.

[MikeNYC]

Nupeman88 said:

Again, as usual Mike. You are putting me to sleep with how your logic works on things. One thing for sure, you never deviate from your MO.

That's right I tell the truth. About time you stop denying it. It doesn't become you !

[Nupeman88]

MikeNYC said:

That's right I tell the truth. About time you stop denying it. It doesn't become you !

You tell your version of the truth. It's cool. Respect what I say also. There's validity in my statements too, Mike. I thought that you recognized that fact a long time ago.

[MikeNYC]

Nupeman88 said:

You tell your version of the truth. It's cool. Respect what I say also. There's validity in my statements too, Mike. I thought that you recognized that fact a long time ago.

I tell the real version,that you don't respect...it's not MY TRUTH...I proved that a long time ago. You can't expect respect when you fail to give it...that's the Law Of The Land...weather you like it,or you understand. Just like the whole HOF thing....you can't accept the fact that what I said about it is all the way true. That's why you were left to What If's and They could have done that.When the real truth is it was done the way it was supposed to be done. You twist my words around so that you are in denial of the facts...which are ....The Temptations didn't win a Grammy until Dennis Edwards came onboard. You reply is..that they should have won with David. I may agree,but if I go back to the real world...THEY DIDN'T. And you still beat yourself over your head trying to DENY that fact. I didn't say anything biased,just true.
The Temptations would not have made the Hall Of Fame without Dennis Edwards,if that were not true,he would not have been included. Fact,not biased. You want to deny that FACT. You want to deminish the induction by branding it "political"Moaning that they bent the rules for Dennis,but never saying that he didn't deserve to be there,but still too shy to say he must have been a hell of a talent to force politics and rules to be pushed aside. That is not MY truth,just THE TRUTH.
I also said that they would not have made the hall without Dennis,and again you want to go up against the truth. It has to be the truth,did they make it without Dennis? My truth,or THE TRUTH? And the funniest comment that you ever made was that I'm a million miles from reality? I'm not the one with the If I ,Coulda,Woulda,Shoulda....Why? Because the bottom line is....ALL I SAID WAS VERY REAL. If it weren't ,then why is it so?
You also ,falsely say it didn't happen the way I said it.
You know just as well as anyone who reads this board that what I said is all true,not my version,but THEversion. The pathetic part in all of this is your wasted efforts to try to claim that what I said is not true. You even go so far as to attempt to make an excuse to the fact that Dennis has just as many,if not more hits than David & Eddie put together by claiming the material called for a churchy sound. What does that have to do with the fact that he still made just as many,if not more hits than David & Eddie? Nothing. Not my version,just THE version. You just don't likethe way I word the truth. It's in my words,but it's not "MY TRUTH". People in denial often try to come with that crap beaause they get "punch-drunk" with the facts.
That's the truth if it were not so,you wouldn't spend so much time trying to deny the truth. :laughing

[Debbie]

I would like to say in regards to the above situation:

Remember please - when the Classic 5 signed their contracts with BERRY - their contracts were in favor of Berry and Motown.

Upon them signing their contracts with Berry & Motown -they also signed FULL Power of Attorneys in favor of Berry & Motown.

The Classic 5 - along with Otis - were totally under Berry's thumb.

[Davidfan]

Until they all said "SCREW MOTOWN!" (Paul,Eddie,David) and moved labals ... lol ;D

[MikeNYC]

Debbie said:

I would like to say in regards to the above situation:

Remember please - when the Classic 5 signed their contracts with BERRY - their contracts were in favor of Berry and Motown.

Upon them signing their contracts with Berry & Motown -they also signed FULL Power of Attorneys in favor of Berry & Motown.

The Classic 5 - along with Otis - were totally under Berry's thumb.

David had a different contract from the others. He still had the contract that he signed from Anna Records. I understand his called for a little more money than the rest.

[Davidfan]

Oooooo .... He shoulda stook with VEGA ... His first ... Well ... No cause then he never woulda been a tempt ... Actually ... it all worked out for the best =D ... sorta ;D

[crella25]

Aba, I feel you. Can't change history. We can't go back and get anything but a smile and a "how you doing now". He earned his place, and I don' blame him for standing strong. That belongs to him. Yes, yes there has been countless issues, hard feelings and lost friendships. When they startd they were naive. Berry took advantage of all of them. As time went on, they gained knowledge. Would anyone have done things differently, until we walked the same exact walk...can't answer that. Yes, we can all say the noble things we would've done. But again, were you walking the same exact walk, did you ever want something so bad you were willing to 'do what you thought and what you were told it took' to get it. For all that was lost, and sacrificed over the years, you'd have to pry my rights out of my cold, dead hands.

[Aba21]

tHE BIGGEST COMPLAINT ABOUT oTIS IT SEEMS IS THE FACT THAT he did not stand up for the group when it was unhappy with their situation at Motown...but as I see it he was the only one who probably could not have made it own his own so he chose to bite the bullet and tried to get the others to do the same. He had no more power than any of the others. Berry screwed everybody....and Otis was no exception...........but if he had stood up for the group and their stand failed.....he would have been the one out on the street with no job....so I think he did what he thought was was right for him......and it appears that the others were also thinking of themselves when they chose to go solo..........

[ZeldaFScott]

"and it appears that the others were also thinking of themselves when they chose to go solo ..."

I agree with that statement, Aba. On the other hand, they were at least willing to take the risk and rid themeselves of this situation.