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Post by Ivory Fair on Apr 23, 2004 22:56:00 GMT -5
You know what? That's a bunch of :bs: too!  |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 24, 2004 8:28:56 GMT -5
"That song is just as much Woodson's as it is Otis' (at least in writing credit terms)." Well that's what I thought about the group itself. The Temptations are just as much any Tempts group as they are Otis' group. ;D DEAD WRONG!!!!! That's the problem! Just cause you sang in a group for a few years don't mean its yours. Stop denying the man his right. No other living member has any dibs on this group. He may run it not to our liking but its his...bottom line. |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 24, 2004 8:31:03 GMT -5
True about any Hall Of Fame Member. Maybe more so. Plus, that is your feeling,Anna. Nothing wrong with that. can't buy this one.......only Eddie and Otis could have a say............ |
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Post by MikeNYC on Apr 24, 2004 9:55:50 GMT -5
You know what? That's a bunch of  too! Not at all. :laughing TEXT |
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Post by MikeNYC on Apr 24, 2004 10:01:53 GMT -5
DEAD WRONG!!!!! That's the problem! Just cause you sang in a group for a few years don't mean its yours. Stop denying the man his right. No other living member has any dibs on this group. He may run it not to our liking but its his...bottom line. But,Aba...let's be real....a song is yours if you wrote it. Plus,even Otis gives the songs to the singer when he talks about it in his book. (Dennis can handle David's songs) I agree about the Man's rights,but the right does not include wronging others. Why sue Woodson for a song that he wrote? This must be what you mean when you say "DEAD WRONG". That,it is. |
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Post by Nupeman88 on Apr 24, 2004 15:45:57 GMT -5
But,Aba...let's be real....a song is yours if you wrote it. Plus,even Otis gives the songs to the singer when he talks about it in his book. (Dennis can handle David's songs) I agree about the Man's rights,but the right does not include wronging others. Why sue Woodson for a song that he wrote? This must be what you mean when you say "DEAD WRONG". That,it is. I think that Otis really meant that Dennis could handle the songs that David sang lead on. That is not the same as if a person wrote a song, they are entitled to ownership of it. |
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Post by Nupeman88 on Apr 24, 2004 15:51:10 GMT -5
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Post by ZeldaFScott on Apr 24, 2004 16:23:51 GMT -5
"You know what? That's a bunch of too!" Must be Ivory's BS day ....  I wonder who came up with that BS-slogan, though, that no one member is bigger than the group? Wasn't me ;D |
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Post by ZeldaFScott on Apr 24, 2004 16:30:19 GMT -5
"Stop denying the man his right. " Ain't no one denying Otis' rights. But it seems everyone is denying the other members' rights. "Once a Temptations -- always a Temptations ..." ;D You guys are sooooo qyick at jumping at people's throat if Otis is in danger of getting his tender feelings hurt. Who's thinking about the other guys' feelings? I suppose, though, their feelings are a bunch of BS ... And Aba, if you claim Eddie's and Paul's rights ... don't forget to tell us what happened to them. Do you really think Eddie or Paul should/could have kicked Otis out. Try to imagine that -- just for a change.  |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 24, 2004 21:45:14 GMT -5
But,Aba...let's be real....a song is yours if you wrote it. Plus,even Otis gives the songs to the singer when he talks about it in his book. (Dennis can handle David's songs) I agree about the Man's rights,but the right does not include wronging others. Why sue Woodson for a song that he wrote? This must be what you mean when you say "DEAD WRONG". That,it is. I agree with you here on these points Mike....that is the so called business of the Temptations in which Otis has not performed as well we would like. No arguments here....But as far as who is owed something when it comes to the right of the group, anybody after Eddie, Paul and Otis don't have a say........none, not David..not Dennis or anybody else.......The others were former tempts and whatever else they are is not for me to say or judge....They deserve credit for their contributions whether it be financially or in terms of respect but in ownership of the group, they don't deserve any in my opinion. That is not a slap at anybody...just a fact. |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 24, 2004 21:58:17 GMT -5
"Stop denying the man his right. " Ain't no one denying Otis' rights. But it seems everyone is denying the other members' rights. "Once a Temptations -- always a Temptations ..." ;D You guys are sooooo qyick at jumping at people's throat if Otis is in danger of getting his tender feelings hurt. Who's thinking about the other guys' feelings? I suppose, though, their feelings are a bunch of BS ... And Aba, if you claim Eddie's and Paul's rights ... don't forget to tell us what happened to them. Do you really think Eddie or Paul should/could have kicked Otis out. Try to imagine that -- just for a change. Stop dreaming Anna and get your head out of the clouds...nothing you can imagine will change history all ready written....what's done is done and you can't make David look better by cracking on Otis all the time. Feelings don't have a thing to do withthe present. That's for you and me and others to have. David and Eddie and Dennis had talent and they were looking out for their best interests....wanting to go solo and do other projects.......I don't know who made the rule that nothing could be done outside the group.....I'm sure back then it started at the top with Berry Gordy though. And that thing you keep quoting, no one man.......that's part of that made for tv crap. Somehow you get your pants tied in a knot everytime I say something in Otis defense....if you really read what I said you would get that I only say and have always only said...you can say what you want about how he sings or not and how he treats people or not....but when you say something that to me challenges his position as a HOF member of the Temptations....count on me to speak up....you may not like it but he had a big hand in starting this darn group and you can't change that no matter how much you dislike the man. Its not my fault he may or may not have given credit where credit is due, but it don't change for a minute his status in the legacy of the temptations................ And Anna, please tell me what rights the others have when it comes to Otis group of Temptations? What rights do they have period. Can you go back to anyjob you've had in life and demand something in return..........I can't got back to Nets and ask for a darn thing other than a ticket to come and watch. I mean, some of these guys made bad decisons...like Richard signing that foolish deal to leave the group, for one. You want me to see both sides and I do...I could be mad at David for his transgressions but I'm not.....I could be mad at Dennis or Eddie the same way for leaving the group for whatever reasons but I'm not. Life goes on everyday and we all need to move on...this is 2004 and I ain't gon be sorry no mooooooreeee!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by ZeldaFScott on Apr 24, 2004 22:07:03 GMT -5
"And that thing you keep quoting, no one man.......that's part of that made for tv crap."
Honestly, I thought that was from Otis' book. And, by the way, it's not only me wo keeps on quoting that part ... This statement is quite often used in discussions to justify Otis' decisions.
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Post by Davidfan on Apr 26, 2004 17:50:56 GMT -5
Let's just say they have 50/50 ownership of it ... it belongs to both of em ... Otis and Ali ... ;D
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Post by MikeNYC on Apr 27, 2004 17:21:14 GMT -5
I think that Otis really meant that Dennis could handle the songs that David sang lead on. That is not the same as if a person wrote a song, they are entitled to ownership of it. You gonna tell me what Otis is thinking? Besides,I was talking about Woodson & Otis over the song Treat her Like A Lady,which Woodson wrote which makes the song his. You got the conversation dead wrong. |
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Post by Nupeman88 on Apr 27, 2004 17:36:50 GMT -5
You gonna tell me what Otis is thinking? Besides,I was talking about Woodson & Otis over the song Treat her Like A Lady,which Woodson wrote which makes the song his. You got the conversation dead wrong. :nono I did not get the conversation wrong. You just mis-interpeted my post, as usual Mike. I was referring to post #19, clearly two different things. I was responding to both of the comments you made. |
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