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Post by Peach on Aug 29, 2003 11:21:11 GMT -5
I was just thinking...driving down the road, listening to "Power".....I thought about that point in the Temptations movie when Otis and Melvin were in the dressing room, wearing those satin-y black shirts. Remember? "Half a house, still deserves a great show!" Then he playfully hits Melvin. (Which probably hurt Melvin, at that point, big dummy.) *Anyway,* Dennis was still with the Temptations then. But you wouldn't know it. It's like he's a big zero. I hate the fact that Dennis is some kind of "background" guy in the movie. You see him in the scene, but it's like he's some kind of outsider. We learn *nothing* about him. Zip. Nada. (Oh, except the false idea that he was mad when David took the mike away during that concert.) This guy was the lead singer for...what was it....14 years straight? (The first time around....) Did they *have* to leave him out of the movie because he's still alive and Otis was afraid to say anything that would p*ss Dennis off? Lawsuits and all that? I, for one, would have liked to have learned more about Dennis. I, at least, would have liked to see him as an integral part of the group... instead of just this 2-person core, with interchanging parts. You know I *love* my Melvin, so this isn't against him. And, no, Mikey didn't pay me to say this.  But it's just an observation... any thoughts? Why no Dennis? It's like he didn't exist. Even that big article about "Success" that is posted in the newspaper articles section of this board, they mention the *five* Temptations responsible for "their sound." That isn't totally true. Yes, the Classic Five started it all.... they instigated the original sound. But what about later? Peach |
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Post by kalisa2 on Aug 29, 2003 12:25:49 GMT -5
I think we have "time constraints" as an excuse...there was enough story covering the very beginnings...but you're right, we got to know Al better than Dennis for sure...and what did Al have to do with their first Grammy? NOW...what the heck were they doing putting that bit in (back stage after David had done "Ain't to proud") when David theoretically said "That's MY Grammy"? We have no concrete evidence anywhere (other than some rumors) that David ever even rehearsed "Cloud Nine" nevermind recording it somewhere. David couldn't tell Dennis's voice from his own on the recording?  What a silly line! In regards to that scene you refer to, I believe that Otis and Melvin were the "Powers that Be" within the group, the only two originals left by that point in time...and from anything I understand Dennis never chose to take any part in decision-making, but rather went with the flow...so I think maybe that was used to show that by that time Otis and Mel were the driving forces behind the scenes. |
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Post by Ivory Fair on Aug 29, 2003 20:52:29 GMT -5
I'm gonna have to take your work for it right now Peach but are you SURE Dennis was supposed to be still in the group at that time? I thought that was just before the scene where the two groups are shown "batteling" over "Ball of Confusion." Of course the time line on that is ALL screwed up, but as far as the movie goes, I thought Dennis wasn't in it at the time of that scene. Regardless, the movie didn't want to touch Dennis with a 10 foot poll. Why? Because he's the only one still alive to sue if he was mis-portrayed. |
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Post by Aba21 on Aug 29, 2003 21:20:20 GMT -5
I beleive the movie was about the rise and fall of the classic five. And even though Dennis was an intregal part of their history if you look at the way the movie was layed out, part one chronicled their rise and part two their downfall and even though members changed, the story didn't end til all the classic five had passed except Otis. So as much as *I* wanted more from Dennis, the way the story played out to me it was about the C-5. There is no doubt the time lines were screwed up as well as the portrayal of Dennis himself and as Ivory says, I believe that because he was here to defend anything he believed to wrong in the movie about himself, Dennis was left alone.
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Post by jay on Aug 29, 2003 23:09:56 GMT -5
I was just thinking...driving down the road, listening to "Power".....I thought about that point in the Temptations movie when Otis and Melvin were in the dressing room, wearing those satin-y black shirts. Remember? "Half a house, still deserves a great show!" Then he playfully hits Melvin. (Which probably hurt Melvin, at that point, big dummy.) *Anyway,* Dennis was still with the Temptations then. But you wouldn't know it. It's like he's a big zero. I hate the fact that Dennis is some kind of "background" guy in the movie. You see him in the scene, but it's like he's some kind of outsider. We learn *nothing* about him. Zip. Nada. (Oh, except the false idea that he was mad when David took the mike away during that concert.) This guy was the lead singer for...what was it....14 years straight? (The first time around....) Did they *have* to leave him out of the movie because he's still alive and Otis was afraid to say anything that would p*ss Dennis off? Lawsuits and all that? I, for one, would have liked to have learned more about Dennis. I, at least, would have liked to see him as an integral part of the group... instead of just this 2-person core, with interchanging parts. You know I *love* my Melvin, so this isn't against him. And, no, Mikey didn't pay me to say this. But it's just an observation... any thoughts? Why no Dennis? It's like he didn't exist. Even that big article about "Success" that is posted in the newspaper articles section of this board, they mention the *five* Temptations responsible for "their sound." That isn't totally true. Yes, the Classic Five started it all.... they instigated the original sound. But what about later? Peach I hate to correct you but, I THINK the scene with Otis and Melvin happened around 1977. Dennis was a member from 1968 to 1975 the first time around. If you listen carefully to Melvin talk about only having half a house full, there is a little more to it. Otis says something like "Well, Half a house still deserves a good show. We have to be twice as good tonight FOR THE NEW GUYS". You have to listen real close to catch it. I always assumed that it meant Glenn and Louis. Remember, Glenn is the one singing Ball Of Confusion in the next scene. |
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Post by Ivory Fair on Aug 30, 2003 9:00:07 GMT -5
So "Ball of Confusion" DOES occur in the next scene. Thanks Jay, I really should carry around my DVD with me at all times.  To be honest, the only thing I remember from that scene is DB Woodside's bootie when he bends over tht chair!!! :hairraiser: |
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Post by jay on Aug 30, 2003 21:36:48 GMT -5
So "Ball of Confusion" DOES occur in the next scene. Thanks Jay, I really should carry around my DVD with me at all times. Actually, I'm not exactly sure if it's the very next scene. But, I remember that "Ball Of Confusion" is the next song scene, and it has Glenn singing lead. |
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Post by earthangel on Aug 31, 2003 9:25:39 GMT -5
Sorry to change the subject, but it just seems that this wouldn't fit anywhere else. What was Terron Brooks singin when he was in that lil club before David wlaked in and joined him. I know it's supposed to be "Keep on Truckin", but I swear he changed some of the words.
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Post by Peach on Aug 31, 2003 14:53:52 GMT -5
I guess it has been awhile since I've watched it, and I got the order *all* mixed up. Definitely the years. Earthangel, isn't Terron singing 'Keep on Truckin?' I'm pretty sure..... I thought I had this thing memorized. Still......I guess I'll have to contact Dennis for the Dennis Edwards bio-pic.... who should play Dennis for this "made for TV" movie? Peach |
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Post by Tempzfanat14 on Aug 31, 2003 15:18:34 GMT -5
Sorry to change the subject, but it just seems that this wouldn't fit anywhere else. What was Terron Brooks singin when he was in that lil club before David wlaked in and joined him. I know it's supposed to be "Keep on Truckin", but I swear he changed some of the words. sounded/looked like he was singing "Boogie Down"  |
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Post by Ivory Fair on Aug 31, 2003 18:52:35 GMT -5
who should play Dennis for this "made for TV" movie?I vote for the dude who played him the first time. 
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Post by Maliya_J on Jan 27, 2004 23:40:35 GMT -5
Did they *have* to leave him out of the movie because he's still alive and Otis was afraid to say anything that would p*ss Dennis off? Lawsuits and all that? Peach This is it u hit it right on the head with this one ![]() temptsinfo.com/smilies/wtg.gif![]() |
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Post by selfishreasons on Jan 27, 2004 23:45:48 GMT -5
great thread. i've seen the movie already.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Jan 28, 2004 12:48:19 GMT -5
I think I'll move this to the "miniseries" area since we didn't have that when it was created.........
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Post by Nupeman88 on Jan 28, 2004 20:30:11 GMT -5
I beleive the movie was about the rise and fall of the classic five. And even though Dennis was an intregal part of their history if you look at the way the movie was layed out, part one chronicled their rise and part two their downfall and even though members changed, the story didn't end til all the classic five had passed except Otis. So as much as *I* wanted more from Dennis, the way the story played out to me it was about the C-5. There is no doubt the time lines were screwed up as well as the portrayal of Dennis himself and as Ivory says, I believe that because he was here to defend anything he believed to wrong in the movie about himself, Dennis was left alone. Hey Aba21, your'e right. Also, the cover of Otis's book would indicate what the story's really about. The movie showed a lot of Otis's and Paul's personal life situations. I presume most of the members had families, but no mention of Eddie's, David's(other than his brother Jimmy) Melvin's(Other than his mother) FAMILIES. The movie should have been expanded other than two night's on T.V. to show more of the individual group members stories. (Were they not important?) A true mini-series should have more than two parts. Remember Roots? They shouldn't label the movie a mini-series, because it's actually a two-part movie. |
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