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Post by Timmy84 on Nov 6, 2003 15:20:10 GMT -5
All you're saying is that there were five individuals in a group who as time went by saw other things in life they wanted to do outside the group confines and there struggles and conflits about getting that done. These men had seen it all, and done it all. It happens to peopel everyday in real life...You grow up, mature and want what you think may be something better fo yourself. I understand your point real well. |
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Post by Robbie53Tele on Mar 2, 2004 18:18:24 GMT -5
After seeing the film, I will say think O's portrayal might be biased. However if each of these guys made their own versions it would be biased towards them as well or seeing the others as they saw them . I do agree that O should get credit for not deciding to pack it in and keep it going, despite all these mishaps. Also, his views weren't all that bad. When they were inducted in the hall of fame it had them standing up there together as friends who all helped make it all possible even though it may've been headed for disaster. Also, about how Dave said in a nutshell that some people need them to be hard on them like that. I just thought that was lame about how when Dave wanted to sing w/ them again and cleaned up that O and Blue told him "no go" It seemed to me no matter what a jerk Dave was at times, Eddie was the only one who remained hs friend thru it all. Also, if y'all notice the same thing that happened to Dave happened to Paul. While he wasn't star tripping like Dave, HE too had a problem and instead of being a friend and being there for him all he cared about was the group and was willing to dispose of people who were supposed to be his friends if they had a problem. And that's what Dave (aka Leon) said to eddie about O. I don't think that's grounds for success as a man. Success would mean being there for your friends when they need you most, not throwing them away like "Alabama trash" Because While people talk about Mel, I think Paul was truly the one who lived for being a Temptation. because as documented. he didn't care about money or stardom, he really just wanted to make music that represented who they were and he was. and when he couldn't do that, thanks to O giving him an indefinite leave of abscence, and just replacing him, that was what did him in How can you replace Paul Williams!? If that was me I would've cut the tour short and made sure he bettered himself before we went on. I mean that's so disrespectful it's disgusting  The death of the temps to what? The death of Paul, the guy who helped lift them up and become who became known as the Original Temptations? I dunno, these facts in mind are very sad. But still i enjoy the movie very much and there's alot of funny stuff in it. It's like Hysteria: the def Leppard Story or the Jacksons: an American dream. speaking of which, i'm gonna watch it again! cheers Rob |
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Post by MikeNYC on Mar 2, 2004 19:28:43 GMT -5
After seeing the film, I will say think O's portrayal might be biased. However if each of these guys made their own versions it would be biased towards them as well or seeing the others as they saw them . I do agree that O should get credit for not deciding to pack it in and keep it going, despite all these mishaps. What other options did Otis have..going solo? His options were limited at best, It did seem strange that Otis wanted to continue without Paul,but wanted to stop when it came to Melvin...what was the difference? Why stop for one and not the other?   |
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Post by Ebony on Mar 2, 2004 22:20:32 GMT -5
It did seem strange that Otis wanted to continue without Paul,but wanted to stop when it came to Melvin...what was the difference? Why stop for one and not the other? And this is why so many people dislike Otis and have such little respect for him. And yes, I am one of those people. |
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 2, 2004 23:41:10 GMT -5
poor, sad, people ................. a new hobby perhaps? I hear scrapbooking is all the rage. ;D
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Post by DC on Mar 3, 2004 0:03:06 GMT -5
That's why anyone who has seen the movie needs to read the book. The book shows the good and bad sides of all the Tempts. Including Otis trying cocaine, and him repeatedly cheating on his 1st wife with female fans. This is what I didn't like about the movie, like the writer said Otis is portrayed as perfect, and the other members were crazy. David was portrayed in the movie as a drug addict that sang and that's it. The book showed his complex personality ,his growing up, and his huge contributions to the group. For example, in the movie it's was a very dramatic moment when David asked to change the name of the group. It made David seem like he was completely out of his mind to ask this. But in the book Otis said, he understood where David was coming from but said "No" and that was it. David was a solo artist and cutting solo records by himself before he was with the Tempts. He should have respected the groups decision, but you have to understand where he was coming from. And I feel if he was promoted as a solo artist he would have had a successful solo career. Because Otis was an executive producer of the film he could have changed this uneven portrayl of the other group members.
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Post by MikeNYC on Mar 3, 2004 17:58:50 GMT -5
poor, sad, people ................. a new hobby perhaps? I hear scrapbooking is all the rage. ;D Did you try it? That's the way they feel...why do they have to be poor,sad,people? Is it something that they're missing that you want to point out to them that would make their lives more...unpoor and sad? This is what the story tells them. You have to admit that they have made valid points as to what makes them feel the way that they do...just like YOU have for the way you feel...right? |
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Post by Aba21 on Mar 3, 2004 22:33:24 GMT -5
That's why you have to find more than the movie or the book before making your judgements on the Temptations. There is so much to the story than just one man's view. I believe the movie has done only one thing....that bring a lot of you here to this board and other places in search of the real story about the group. Hopefully you will find out all you seek and then make an educated assessment of everything you've learned...........
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Post by iratherlikeme on Mar 4, 2004 2:27:32 GMT -5
Dang, did I write that? I think I said the same thing once on this board. I thought that particular scene and the scene in which Otis' mother tells him that he was not just a good musician but a good man as well were unnecessary in the movie. I mean, it was long enough without that thrown in.
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