[kalisa2]

I go the same route, Aba. Actually reading someone's autobiography isn't as interesting for me to find out about them as it is to find out about their reactions to the other people in their lives. For instance, the little tidbits Raynoma dropped about the Temptations and David Ruffin when she was talking about herself...Marvin Gaye mentioning Raynoma's importance when he was talking about himself. I don't know if I'm being clear or making sense, but sometimes you can learn more from those little kernels than you can from someone's self-promoting or self-describing words about their own selves.

But that's what I mean when I talk about 'gathering kernels'...reading all that's out there and putting it ALL together to form probably a more accurate idea of what really went on and what certain people are really about.

[JoAnne]

kalisa2 said:

I go the same route, Aba. Actually reading someone's autobiography isn't as interesting for me to find out about them as it is to find out about their reactions to the other people in their lives. For instance, the little tidbits Raynoma dropped about the Temptations and David Ruffin when she was talking about herself...Marvin Gaye mentioning Raynoma's importance when he was talking about himself. I don't know if I'm being clear or making sense, but sometimes you can learn more from those little kernels than you can from someone's self-promoting or self-describing words about their own selves.

But that's what I mean when I talk about 'gathering kernels'...reading all that's out there and putting it ALL together to form probably a more accurate idea of what really went on and what certain people are really about.

I know what you mean about gathering kernels. I call it, making soup. I get all the information I can and compare them and put them together in order, as to what happened to certain people at the same place and time. That way I can come to a conclusion of what really happened.

[kalisa2]

Honey said:

I know what you mean about gathering kernels. I call it, making soup. I get all the information I can and compare them and put them together in order, as to what happened to certain people at the same place and time. That way I can come to a conclusion of what really happened.

exactly! Now, if our soups come out the same (different opinions from the same material)...that's ok, as long as we have all the ingredients and cook it long enough .

[JoAnne]

kalisa2 said:

exactly! Now, if our soups come out the same (different opinions from the same material)...that's ok, as long as we have all the ingredients and cook it long enough .

Hey that's right! Keep on cooking temptsinfo.com/smilies/wtg.gif

[MikeNYC]

Honey said:

Thanks Aba21 for saying you are sorry! Things were really getting crazy around here. When you said I made a certain statement and than you would put me down for making such a negative statement. (That I never made at all!!) I mean it was llike I was accused of shooting Lincoln and now I'm going to jail!

It happens to the best of us,Honey! I'm still waiting for Debbie to pull up my posts where she claims that I said things that I didn't. I was hoping that she would. Maybe I don't have that many posts to choose from? What do you think? Just don't let it bother you. If you know that you didn't say something that you were accused of saying and nobody shows you,what do you have to prove?

[JoAnne]

MikeNYC said:

It happens to the best of us,Honey! I'm still waiting for Debbie to pull up my posts where she claims that I said things that I didn't. I was hoping that she would. Maybe I don't have that many posts to choose from? What do you think? Just don't let it bother you. If you know that you didn't say something that you were accused of saying and nobody shows you,what do you have to prove?

Yea I know what you mean. It did piss me off. But I was just maintaining my cool.

[MikeNYC]

Aba21 said:

And don't be surprised if Richard's book tells some of the same stories the same way Otis did as well as say he sang behind the curtain for Paul which some people don't believe happened. You said it....I don't know what other books you read but nobody who was not in the group, traveled with them on a daily basis can tell the story better than someone in the group. I agree with Curet30, I don't think he set out to bad mouth anybody. It was well known he didn't get along with David and that he and Eddie clashed over different things. Hey Boys will be boys!!!!!! ;D

I'm one of those who question Richard's singing behind the curtain. He never sang for Paul at any show that you attended. He never did it at any show that I attended. Richard sounds nothing like Paul,the audience whould have noticed. Plus,Melvin & Paul said that when Paul was out,Melvin sang Paul's parts. Are you calling them liars? I don't think that otis set out to bad mouth anyone,it just ended up that way.

[MikeNYC]

kalisa2 said:

Thank you, ghostman I've tried to say that several times, that those things directly affected the group and spoke to why "The Soul of the Temptations" was no longer in the group, or performing with the group.

I had a problem, for a while, with the way one of the highlights of Paul's career ("For Once In My Life") was portrayed in the movie as a drunken stupor at a party, and blamed Otis for that. He didn't put it that way in the book, and as we've determined, he had very little say-so as far as movie scripting went. (I still have a problem with that portrayal, I just don't blame Otis for it anymore )

What did Paul stepping out on his wife have to do with the group? Otis stepping out on his wife had little to no affect? Paul's illness was what affected the group. That's not what Otis wants you to believe,he has to sell a product. So, he added things to peak people's interest,no matter what it did to Paul's family. It is totat hogwash to think that Otis had no say-so in a name that he went through hell and highwater to protect. That's just not true. Stop the nonsense. The hell he didn't portray Paul in the manner that the movie did. Smokey,Martha,Gladys,not even Mary did that to their groupmates.

[JoAnne]

MikeNYC said:

What did Paul stepping out on his wife have to do with the group? Otis stepping out on his wife had little to no affect? Paul's illness was what affected the group. That's not what Otis wants you to believe,he has to sell a product. So, he added things to peak people's interest,no matter what it did to Paul's family. It is totat hogwash to think that Otis had no say-so in a name that he went through hell and highwater to protect. That's just not true. Stop the nonsense. The hell he didn't portray Paul in the manner that the movie did. Smokey,Martha,Gladys,not even Mary did that to their groupmates.