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Post by MikeNYC on Apr 5, 2003 17:45:27 GMT -5
Look, the more I read, the more I'm convinced nobody wants to read anything I have to type. Okay. One more time. *clears throat (flexes fingers)* YOU said... Otis didn't have anything to do with what happened to the group. I said that he did because his name was signed on that paper that released David. My point is, that his signature was something. Would it help if I said that I didn't mean it seriously, but just that I was kind of trying to be facetious? Tongue-in-cheek. You know!  I don't know. Kinda sounds like somebody who knows his limitations and needs other people to depend on (as far as a music career goes). He's never done anything else. Does he have any other marketable skills? Other than his little clothing line, which he probably wouldn't have if he wasn't a member of a world-famous group. Just me.  Just for the record, neither do I. Where do I start?! You might have to wait until Otis has passed to hear good things from other people, but I have said--and here I thought you were paying attention--that I admire and respect the man for continuing the name. More than once. And on this board where you could read it. I have also said that speaking ill of the dead is something I won't do because they cannot defend themselves. Since Mr. Franklin is no longer with us, I will not begin with him. I don't know who talks badly about Paul or David, but you're talking like it was me. And I KNOW it wasn't. ;D Where? Where did I make it sound that way? I like to look over what I type either before or after I send it, and I don't believe I know where that particular sentiment came from. Let me know, all right? I didn't say anything about David being in charge and if you notice I included neither him nor Dennis when I said that Otis may not have the name if there were others there to contest it. I said Paul and Eddie James (original members). That means that I kinda know that David didn't really have any "seniority," as you put it. You told me he had another agenda, one that was different from the group. If this wasn't what you were insinuating, then what was it? This is becoming a trend... Okay, also didn't say that nor did I suggest that. Sapia. Oh no,not you too! We are still on this garbage?You want me to go there? I've made my points perfectly clear as to my take on it. Otis did what he had to do,no more,no less.If he's the disruptive force,then who gets rid of him ? He seems like he doesn't know when probation is up. Why can't these people get paid like they are supposed to ? He is still doing the same thing...what is there to celebrate? All this talk about successfull businessman is  I've stated why before,and it's still going on today,weakening the Temptations as a musical force,strengthing them as a musical farce! But I give Otis credit for still being here. And please....cut the crap about blaming Otis because hs's still alive..... PURE ,uncut,raw simply foolish!  And that's the truth! |
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Post by sukkafu on Apr 5, 2003 18:36:23 GMT -5
you don't get rid of otis and you don't get rid of dennis. those who wish to support the temptations current lineup can go like sheep and pay big bucks to swoon over what they get for their choice.
those who prefer other alternatives like the review or another splinter group have that choice.
others can invest a one time fee in a karaoke machine and some pre recorded tracks on cd!
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Post by iratherlikeme on Apr 5, 2003 18:53:57 GMT -5
Oh no, not me too, what? We went through it in less than a day. It's way over and past us and things.  |
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Post by selfishreasons on Apr 5, 2003 21:13:37 GMT -5
you don't get rid of otis and you don't get rid of dennis. those who wish to support the temptations current lineup can go like sheep and pay big bucks to swoon over what they get for their choice. those who prefer other alternatives like the review or another splinter group have that choice. others can invest a one time fee in a karaoke machine and some pre recorded tracks on cd! Like Sheep? Dude, I think many of us are in it for the great singing. They are great singers. To me they are Temptations, through and through. Sure they don't have the kind of stability we would like, but they have the voices. And plus, the group has never really had stability. No stable line-up. It was costantly changing. What makes these new temptations, temptations is that they contribute to the catalogue. Great songs to the catalogue. Now as far as Dennis and those groups as an atlernative, I like that alternative too. But as you say, it's an alternative. But is it really? It's not really an alternative, it's an addition. Or the current tempts are an addition to the "alternatives." To me they all compliment each other. They are both things you'd like to see and they are both great, so what's the alternative. What you get is two comperable yet contrasting experiences. Afterall the Temptations are not just a group. The Temptations are an experience. And an experience is worth a million words. When I see the live at Harrah's video I see an amazing piece of live performace. It was flashy and at the same time is was intimate. When I see the Temptations with Otis, I feel a very flashy yet intimate show. It was the same. From the accounts I have heard from Dennis' group and from what I hear on his Live and San Pablo album, I get that his routine is like a photo documentary of the Temptations music. It feels like a Documentary with the intimacy. Whereas with Otis it feels like, what I imagine he is accumstomed to doing since the start (a show). |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 5, 2003 22:00:48 GMT -5
You know the current line-up with Bo was together longer than the classic five. It just goes to show you the magic that was the classic five. They packed a lot of stuff in their brief history. And how many cds did this group have....3? Well I liked them and I'm sorry to see them split if the story is true.
But I tell you one thing.....Otis better start getting the message that to have quality you got to pay for it. If you want discounts go to Wal-Mart!!!!! ;D
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Post by selfishreasons on Apr 6, 2003 1:04:25 GMT -5
You know the current line-up with Bo was together longer than the classic five. It just goes to show you the magic that was the classic five. They packed a lot of stuff in their brief history. And how many cds did this group have....3? Well I liked them and I'm sorry to see them split if the story is true. But I tell you one thing.....Otis better start getting the message that to have quality you got to pay for it. If you want discounts go to Wal-Mart!!!!! ;D I think Otis is in a place right now where he can get quality people who would just die to be in the Temptations. I think he's fortunate enough that turnover is apart of thier history. But I don't know how well this will go over with fans. This new change is gonna be wired after coming off of a grammy and a grammy nomination. This might not sit right with the new fans or some of the older ones. I think it has been proven that this line up is very good and gelled nicely. They had a certain magic. And after three very well recieved albums, I hope the magic can come back with GC (grrrrrrrrrr). |
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Post by sukkafu on Apr 6, 2003 2:13:50 GMT -5
g.c. stands for get contract! or even better, get cash!  cameron= Can Any Motown Entertainer Respect Otis' Nonpayment? |
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Post by selfishreasons on Apr 6, 2003 10:39:33 GMT -5
How much success do you all think they'll have with this new guy?
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Post by Ivory Fair on Apr 6, 2003 15:05:18 GMT -5
And how many cds did this group have....3? Well I liked them and I'm sorry to see them split if the story is true.
Well, to be totally fair, Motown's not cranking out albums at the record pace that they did back in the day.
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Post by selfishreasons on Apr 6, 2003 19:54:57 GMT -5
So, very true. If motown were cutting them out, then there would be like 10 albums on these guys.
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Post by MikeNYC on Apr 6, 2003 20:22:32 GMT -5
And how many cds did this group have....3? Well I liked them and I'm sorry to see them split if the story is true.
Well, to be totally fair, Motown's not cranking out albums at the record pace that they did back in the day. Weak excuse! Try another! There will never be a group like the HOF6,talent-wise you can't top them I don't care how long they were together,the fact remains that their music will live forever,overshadowing anybody else who tries to fill in and sing the songs that the HOF 6 made famous. Even if you live on Fantasy Island!  |
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Post by sukkafu on Apr 7, 2003 2:08:29 GMT -5
what's even more amazing is that back in the glory days they were cranking out so many tunes, that you could use the excuse that they weren't taking their time like they are today. now they have all this technology and vocal enhancers and years between albums and they still can't match the quality of the frenetic pace of the hof 6 days!
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Post by selfishreasons on Apr 7, 2003 8:53:31 GMT -5
I agree, there is alot of vocal enhancement today and I don't like it. I go to concerts and am made sick by these cats who can't sing and the only reason they sounded good was because of the studio. But here's the thing, to be a tempt you have to sound good on stage, while singing and dancing.
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 7, 2003 10:38:16 GMT -5
It appears to me that every group is looking for that cd that will make them the superstar that Michael Jackson was. Hey even he couldn't reproduce Thriller! I admire groups who take their time like a Stevie or a Marvin used to do so that what we got was a Masterpiece but either they can't get good material or good writers all the time. Also they don't have Norman,Smokey and others at the ready anymore in competition to get a hit on the Temps. It's different now. A lot different.
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Post by earthangel on Apr 7, 2003 12:54:25 GMT -5
I agree, there is alot of vocal enhancement today and I don't like it. I go to concerts and am made sick by these cats who can't sing and the only reason they sounded good was because of the studio. But here's the thing, to be a tempt you have to sound good on stage, while singing and dancing. I know, thats not fair! And there are some people out there who can really sing, but the stage is taken by those who use voice enhancers. If that's the case, I could be a famous singer! |
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