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Post by Ebony on Jul 24, 2003 10:05:01 GMT -5
I would have voted that he stay. Also, I believe that David would have meshed right in with the new direction the group took with Norman. If you think about "Ain't Too Proud to Beg" you'll see that David could get down and dirty with the rest of them and not just sing love songs.
WIth my vote, the total stands as follows:
In: 8 votes
Out: 4 votes
Undecided: 2 votes
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Post by MikeNYC on Jul 24, 2003 17:03:57 GMT -5
You a sick man, my brother. ;D anyway you look at it, it was a tough decision. I know that David was not the only one who had problems, missed rehearsals and had personal problems. He was so good it came easy to him and like Allen Iverson felt he didn't need rehearsals or practice. But if you want to be the front man, there comes a huge responsibility with that post. You have others behind you who look to you to lead. If your leader has no discipline and I think we can all agree that David had a problem in that area. There is little or no documentation that I know of anybody else missing shows. I can't speak for rehearsals. I mean unannounced missing of shows. How many times does he get to screw up the credibility of the show in terms of promoters willing to gamble they all will show up before you decide you had enough? All of you who voted stay answer that one. I voted stay but if he proved to me it was all about him........then I got to start looking out for me. As many times as the others get away with their NONSENSE ! Like missing dance steps...on a regular basis.Or not showing up to recording sessions because you don't have a lead part. If you are going to rule..you have to rule the same for all. If you don't show up...fined...if you mess up the steps...fined! PAY UP ! No one man is bigger than the group! |
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Post by edafan on Jul 24, 2003 18:25:39 GMT -5
out
And I truely love the man and love his voice.
O K An 'in ' vote resulted in no Dennis no Papa and a tempts group that would have vanished into oblivion
because the music business would not have put up with the group over 40 years appearing without their lead singer most of the time
edafan
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Post by rufffan on Jul 24, 2003 18:49:42 GMT -5
IN
JUST BECAUSE
TOTAL IN = 9
TOTAL OUT = 5
TOTAL UNDECIDED = 2
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Post by Nish on Jul 24, 2003 22:07:47 GMT -5
David stays. You know, David Ruffin is entirely too important. And before someone says "well Dennis did this" and "Ali did that" and look at what they accomplished, I will say "right, and look at who we still talk about. He looms larger than any temptation. It ain't no big thing, just accept it.
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Post by MikeNYC on Jul 25, 2003 2:25:12 GMT -5
out And I truely love the man and love his voice. O K An 'in ' vote resulted in no Dennis no Papa Maybe not. Dennis could have got on board in other ways. :hairraiser: |
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Post by Lynnie on Jul 25, 2003 6:17:19 GMT -5
David stays. You know, David Ruffin is entirely too important. And before someone says "well Dennis did this" and "Ali did that" and look at what they accomplished, I will say "right, and look at who we still talk about. He looms larger than any temptation. It ain't no big thing, just accept it. :yourock: :clap: ![]() temptsinfo.com/smilies/wtg.gif![]() That's it in a nutshell, Nish!!! |
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Post by KEEKS on Jul 25, 2003 7:03:02 GMT -5
I would have voted David OUT!! By the way, - keeks - it means pound cake in estonian!  The word is pronounced differently, than in english. HUH?  |
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Post by AnnaKonda on Jul 25, 2003 12:03:11 GMT -5
I would have voted him in! He had quite some charisma and THE VOICE!
But I also would have hired two baby sitters for him-- some big guys with huge biceps, you know. I guess he needed someone like that to keep him out of trouble. He' d probably be still alive today.
What do you all think?
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Post by AnnaKonda on Jul 25, 2003 12:19:50 GMT -5
I agree with you 200 %. Gordy was certainly not the caring daddy as he would like to be known. I think David was just not accepting everything that was going on at Motown, idealistic as he probably was. And isn't it amazing that in most interviews with Motown stars, everytime the subject of Gordy is brought up, all those who should know and usually love to talk, go silent all of a sudden?  This whole thing stinks! That implies to me that you think it was Otis fault that David was voted out. That so called vote is a fantasy. The only vote that counted was BG's vote and he voted him out. Not knowing Dennis was avaliable, I would have voted for David to stay. |
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Post by livesey00 on Jul 25, 2003 17:30:55 GMT -5
I agree with you 200 %. Gordy was certainly not the caring daddy as he would like to be known. I think David was just not accepting everything that was going on at Motown, idealistic as he probably was. And isn't it amazing that in most interviews with Motown stars, everytime the subject of Gordy is brought up, all those who should know and usually love to talk, go silent all of a sudden? This whole thing stinks! I stayed the weekend with THE ORIGINALS when they was over in the U.K last year, the fact is even after all of these years and the fact that none of them have spoke to B.G in years upon years they are still scared shitless to say anything against him!!! That's why they always go quiet it was with a few exceptions at motown that you spoke out publicly against Berry I.E Mr Ruffin etc... They were the ones who had guts to stand up for WAHT THEY SAW RIGHT! Wether it was right or not is a different matter but they are still scared of Berry Gordy conversations with Freddie Gorman showed that to me along with a few others ive been in contact with... |
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Post by jusme on Jul 25, 2003 17:54:51 GMT -5
I woulda probably kicked his tail out, too, but then later regreted (sp?) it...LOL...I mean, Dude was trippin' when he wanted that name change...But in other ways, he was good for the group...
Angel :angel:
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Post by SoulStirrer on Jul 25, 2003 18:22:50 GMT -5
At the time of David's leaving, they were David Ruffin and the Temptations.
Now who's the genius that thought David should sing all of the leads?
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Post by Lynnie on Jul 25, 2003 21:18:05 GMT -5
At the time of David's leaving, they were David Ruffin and the Temptations. Now who's the genius that thought David should sing all of the leads? You're right, SS. Ruffin, in my opinion, didn't get there by himself. |
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Post by Lynnie on Jul 25, 2003 21:21:21 GMT -5
I stayed the weekend with THE ORIGINALS when they was over in the U.K last year, the fact is even after all of these years and the fact that none of them have spoke to B.G in years upon years they are still scared shitless to say anything against him!!! That's why they always go quiet it was with a few exceptions at motown that you spoke out publicly against Berry I.E Mr Ruffin etc... They were the ones who had guts to stand up for WAHT THEY SAW RIGHT! Wether it was right or not is a different matter but they are still scared of Berry Gordy conversations with Freddie Gorman showed that to me along with a few others ive been in contact with... You're on point with this. BG still has money and with that comes a degree of power. I was reading on another board one day about how a lot about Motown happenings will never be known until BG crosses over. Not that it's a pleasant thought, but for some people, it might be true. |
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