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Post by tempfan on Jun 24, 2004 17:41:36 GMT -5
SINGLE - SOMETHIN SPECIAL
Urban/AC Chart
Week 4 - Number 24
Week 3 - Number 26
Week 2 - Number 28
Week 1 - Number 28
ALBUM - LEGACY
R&B/Hip Hop Chart
Week 2 - Number 35
Week 1 - Number 18
ALBUM - LEGACY
Billboard Top 200 Chart
Week 2 - Did Not Chart
Week 1 - Number 163
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Post by 6thTemp on Jun 24, 2004 17:56:53 GMT -5
OK!! Time to Release Round Here or Stay Together!!!!!!!
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 24, 2004 18:58:56 GMT -5
SINGLE - SOMETHIN SPECIAL Urban/AC Chart Week 4 - Number 24 Week 3 - Number 26 Week 2 - Number 28 Week 1 - Number 28 ALBUM - LEGACY R&B/Hip Hop Chart Week 2 - Number 35 Week 1 - Number 18 ALBUM - LEGACY Billboard Top 200 Chart Week 2 - Did Not Chart Week 1 - Number 163 Folks,despite anything you heard...I had nothing to do with the charts.  ;D |
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Post by EddiesLuv on Jun 24, 2004 22:09:09 GMT -5
OK!! Time to Release Round Here or Stay Together!!!!!!! Its time to pull the plug. Start over and make a run as Otis Williams and the Distants. |
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Post by Elbridge on Jun 25, 2004 0:27:43 GMT -5
ALBUM - LEGACY Billboard Top 200 Chart Week 2 - Did Not Chart Week 1 - Number 163 YIKES! What an absolutely awful opening week! Is that officially the worst album debut they've ever had? I can't believe what an over-the-top disaster that is. I'm totally at a loss for words. WOWOWOWOW!!! Ed |
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Post by zebop on Jun 25, 2004 3:09:20 GMT -5
Well, according to the pop chart album rankings this is as high as these albums got.
1978 Bare Back-didn't chart
1981 The Temptations- 119
1983 Surface Thrills 159
1983 Back To Basics 152
1985 Touch Me 146
1987 Together Again 112
If it does ok on the r&B chart, that's good. But of course Motown has seemed to have concluded it's ad campaign for "Legacy", well so far away...
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Post by Elbridge on Jun 25, 2004 4:05:08 GMT -5
Motown ought to be ashamed of itself. I've seen absolutely no promotion for either the album or either single they put out. No TV ads, no radio play, no video (!), no nothing. And I live in DC!!! What are they thinking? Motown is essentially trying to lose out on it's investment. :banghead
It might have been fine for an album to just do "okay" on the R&B charts in the 70's and '80's but in the cash-strapped world of the music business nowadays, it just might be enough to get them dropped. Motown hasn't had anything even remotely resembling a hit in a while and they've signed a bunch of artists that turned into lemons on impact. If this record bombs (and it appears it will), Motown appears to have had a hand in lighting the fuse.
Ed
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Post by Ivory Fair on Jun 25, 2004 9:03:19 GMT -5
They must be aiming for the hillbilly market Ed 'cause they've been running TV ads for the album for the last three weeks here.
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Post by ((LEGACY)) on Jun 25, 2004 9:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by Elbridge on Jun 25, 2004 14:07:03 GMT -5
They must be aiming for the hillbilly market Ed 'cause they've been running TV ads for the album for the last three weeks here. I'm glad they're doing it somewhere but, dang it, they oughta be doing it in more places. Has anyone else seen any ads for this record? Based on the terrible chart ranking, Motown's approach isn't working. As far as the Grammy's are concerned, an album has to sell in at least respectable quantities in order for Grammy consideration. Given the chart ranking, you just know that isn't the case. Also, in my opinion, while the album is good, it isn't Grammy-worthy by any stretch. If they were to actually be nominated, it would be a knee-jerk reaction by the nominating committee. Ed |
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Post by zebop on Jun 25, 2004 15:25:31 GMT -5
Ed, I saw a commercial for "Legacy" on CNN about 6 AM two weeks ago.
IMO the Motown publicity machine has always been off regardless of who the president is, the distributor, it's like the whole thing is just botched. "Legacy" is a multi-generational album, certainly has selling potential--but yet it's not being exploited. "Still Tempting" would be a good single and video to release.
But of course Motown being Motown, they'll delete this from the catalogue and finally re-release this "Power" and "Surface Thrills" in 2054.
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 25, 2004 15:26:36 GMT -5
im just waiting for the GRAMMYS!!!!  Keep waiting! |
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Post by Elbridge on Jun 25, 2004 16:17:04 GMT -5
Ed, I saw a commercial for "Legacy" on CNN about 6 AM two weeks ago. IMO the Motown publicity machine has always been off regardless of who the president is, the distributor, it's like the whole thing is just botched. "Legacy" is a multi-generational album, certainly has selling potential--but yet it's not being exploited. "Still Tempting" would be a good single and video to release. But of course Motown being Motown, they'll delete this from the catalogue and finally re-release this "Power" and "Surface Thrills" in 2054. On CNN!?!?! Why on Earth would Motown bother with buying time on CNN?!?!? Was the cooking channel all booked up? Music fans undoubtedly watch CNN from time to time but why wouldn't Motown go where the music is? Why not advertise on the music channels? Motown has blown this on so many fronts that it ceases to be funny. Let's look at the facts, shall we? 1. They released one single ("50/50 Love") to radio with no promotion 2. When it tanked, they released another (the far superior "Something Special") a mere three months later - again with no fanfare. 3. They didn't produce a video for either single. 4. As far as I know, there are no store displays anywhere. 5. There haven't been any talk show appearances to promote it. 6. The All Music Guide (http://www.allmusic.com) grouped "Legacy" with the other "greatest hits" compilations in their discography - furthering the misconception that there is no new record. They also have no review which leads me to believe that very few promo copies of this album were sent out. Put simply, this just isn't the way you sell records. It's as if Motown wants this record to bomb. If you have the opportunity to make a buck on a record, why wouldn't you take advantage of it? I wonder if they'll even break even at this rate. I agree, zebop, that Motown has fallen victim to mismanagement for many years now (Andre Harrell anyone?) and, while I'm certainly not in the front offices and don't know the man, the end result makes it appear that Kedar Massenburg isn't doing much better. As far as reissues of the massive amount of out-of-print Temptations albums, Motown is unlikely to do anything about that. Maybe they'll pass the masters on to Hip-O Select (the way they did with the unreleased David Ruffin album) but otherwise, we're unlikely to see them anytime soon.   Ed |
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Post by MikeNYC on Jun 25, 2004 16:20:48 GMT -5
On CNN!?!?! Why on Earth would Motown bother with buying time on CNN?!?!? Was the cooking channel all booked up? Music fans undoubtedly watch CNN from time to time but why wouldn't Motown go where the music is? Why not advertise on the music channels? Motown has blown this on so many fronts that it ceases to be funny. Let's look at the facts, shall we? 1. They released one single ("50/50 Love") to radio with no promotion 2. When it tanked, they released another (the far superior "Something Special") a mere three months later - again with no fanfare. 3. They didn't produce a video for either single. 4. As far as I know, there are no store displays anywhere. 5. There haven't been any talk show appearances to promote it. 6. The All Music Guide (http://www.allmusic.com) grouped "Legacy" with the other "greatest hits" compilations in their discography - furthering the misconception that there is no new record. They also have no review which leads me to believe that very few promo copies of this album were sent out. Put simply, this just isn't the way you sell records. It's as if Motown wants this record to bomb. If you have the opportunity to make a buck on a record, why wouldn't you take advantage of it? I wonder if they'll even break even at this rate. I agree, zebop, that Motown has fallen victim to mismanagement for many years now (Andre Harrell anyone?) and, while I'm certainly not in the front offices and don't know the man, the end result makes it appear that Kedar Massenburg isn't doing much better. As far as reissues of the massive amount of out-of-print Temptations albums, Motown is unlikely to do anything about that. Maybe they'll pass the masters on to Hip-O Select (the way they did with the unreleased David Ruffin album) but otherwise, we're unlikely to see them anytime soon. Ed Are you saying that Motown thinks of them as the IMITATIONS? |
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Post by Elbridge on Jun 25, 2004 16:23:38 GMT -5
LOL, Mike!!! Thanks for the levity..  Well, what I'm really saying is that even if you don't like the record, Motown did pay for it. They paid for the sessions and all that went into them. Since they are in the business of making money, they should be trying to recoup their investment to some degree. As far as I can tell, they aren't. For that, they should be ashamed. Ed |
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