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Post by janebse on Oct 30, 2003 15:47:38 GMT -5
The source Kalisa is quoting was the beginning of my research. There are places you can find the original article, which I did. I did not place it on the forum because I went to the original source which I thought few would want to do because it's a lot of work researching. However, the gist is in the quotation.
There was nothing bad said about Bo. It's like another coach replacing Bear Bryant of Alabama or any other well-loved and successful coach or entertainer. It's hard to do.
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Post by selfishreasons on Oct 30, 2003 15:50:18 GMT -5
What was the original quote?
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Post by kalisa2 on Oct 30, 2003 17:14:13 GMT -5
There are places you can find the original article, which I did. care to share?  |
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Post by Melody on Oct 30, 2003 19:54:54 GMT -5
Shout outs to (((((((((EVERYBODY)))))))) in this thread!!
Hey ((((Ivory girl))))! When I was reading (((sukkafu)))'s posts during that time, I got the impression that he had something against Barrington, so there's no way I would use him as an example of someone saying something about BO's singing. I'm talking reviews made during the duration that BO was with the Temptations. I don't remember any polls about BO's singing. Maybe a poll about a favorite singer or who someone thinks sings it Better. I just think that all this talk about BO's singing is coming after the fact. TTYAL!
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Post by MikeNYC on Oct 30, 2003 20:51:56 GMT -5
Shout outs to ((((((((((((((((Everybody)))))))) in this thread!! I've been posting on the Tempts' boards since the fall of 1999, and maybe I overlooked it, but all I remember from that time to the time that (((((Barrington)))) left the Temptations is rave reviews of his performances!! From the reviews I've read the fans Loved his performances. There was nothing said about his singing - like him not hitting notes, etc. Even when the rumors came out about (((G.C.))) replacing BO, there weren't posts talking about BO's singing. Now that BO is no longer with the Tempts, it's like some people are jumping on the bandwagon about his singing and nothing was said before.    Hey (((Mike)))! BO did the album "10 1/2" with the Dramatics. He sang in the background. TTYAL! Miss Melody...shout out to you. I have that lp....his name is not on the credits.....as I was discussing with Aba. Unless Bo used to go by the name of Mike Patillo. Where do I know that name from? |
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Post by Melody on Oct 30, 2003 21:02:17 GMT -5
Hey (((Mike)))! Yeah, you're right!! I bought the album too just because Barrington was supposed to be on it, and there's no mention of him!! I don't know what that is all about. TTYL!
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Post by Ivory Fair on Oct 30, 2003 23:13:49 GMT -5
so there's no way I would use him as an example of someone saying something about BO's singing.Yeah, you probably have a point there. I just think that all this talk about BO's singing is coming after the fact. Yeah, but I think it just goes along with some people who have become new Otis haters because of this. I think those of us who feel passionate about it often feel like we have to blame SOMEONE and O and Bo (I made a rhyme!  ) are the easiest candidates. 
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Post by selfishreasons on Oct 31, 2003 1:19:47 GMT -5
I'm thinking that we need to talk about shelly.
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Post by MikeNYC on Oct 31, 2003 3:59:56 GMT -5
I'm thinking that we need to talk about shelly. :sleepy: :bonk: :banghead :shocked :faint: :nono :shocked :faint: See what ya done did...you woke him up. I told you to be QUIET ! :bonk: :clapping: ![]() temptsinfo.com/smilies/wtg.gif![]() |
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Post by selfishreasons on Oct 31, 2003 10:34:08 GMT -5
uh oh. :crying :shocked I just thought we'd talk. Hmmm. Shelly. What's the deal?
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Post by Eventemp on Oct 31, 2003 11:00:05 GMT -5
((((Cheech))) ... EXACTLY! |
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Post by selfishreasons on Oct 31, 2003 11:56:10 GMT -5
Is shelly the temptations? is he the puppet master?
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Post by Budrocket on Nov 8, 2003 16:50:36 GMT -5
I haven't seen any quotes from Otis slagging Bo Henderson, but speaking as someone who grew up with those records, & having seen them live countless times since the mid-70's, I don't think Bo fit the Temptations lead vocal sound, as good as he is. Too much vibrato, for one, & he tends to riff too much around the melody. I think G.C. is a much better fit.
I also don't know why everybody is so down on Otis Williams &, to a lesser extent, Shelly ("Puppetmaster") Berger. You have to give the man his due for keeping the organization together. I mean, unless you were there or were directly involved, it's rediculous to take sides on arguments & disagreements between band members. It sounds to me like most of the complaints are from disgruntled ex-employees who were let go due to substance abuse problems, unreliability, or because they weren't team players.
As much as the music & the memories may mean to you, it's still their JOB...& no different than your job: if you were coming to work high, were chronically late, weren't performing the work to your bosses' expectations & had problems getting along with your coworkers, how long do you think you would last before you were terminated? How likely is it that they'd take you back again & again, or give you as many second, third, fourth, etc. chances as Otis gave David, Dennis, Ollie, Eddie, etc. Not very, is my guess.
I say give the man credit where it's due...this is Otis's business, he built it from the ground up through a lot of sweat & hard work, through the lean times & the good. From what little I understand their wage standards are actually pretty good, even when members start out as "work for hire" employees during the obligatory 18 month probation period before being made full members. If you're not minding your money or making sure your taxes are being paid by checking the attached receipt on your paycheck that's your problem!
It also appears Henderson has a record of turning litigious when things don't go his way!
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Post by selfishreasons on Nov 8, 2003 17:48:17 GMT -5
I haven't seen any quotes from Otis slagging Bo Henderson, but speaking as someone who grew up with those records, & having seen them live countless times since the mid-70's, I don't think Bo fit the Temptations lead vocal sound, as good as he is. Too much vibrato, for one, & he tends to riff too much around the melody. I think G.C. is a much better fit. I also don't know why everybody is so down on Otis Williams &, to a lesser extent, Shelly ("Puppetmaster") Berger. You have to give the man his due for keeping the organization together. I mean, unless you were there or were directly involved, it's rediculous to take sides on arguments & disagreements between band members. It sounds to me like most of the complaints are from disgruntled ex-employees who were let go due to substance abuse problems, unreliability, or because they weren't team players. As much as the music & the memories may mean to you, it's still their JOB...& no different than your job: if you were coming to work high, were chronically late, weren't performing the work to your bosses' expectations & had problems getting along with your coworkers, how long do you think you would last before you were terminated? How likely is it that they'd take you back again & again, or give you as many second, third, fourth, etc. chances as Otis gave David, Dennis, Ollie, Eddie, etc. Not very, is my guess. I say give the man credit where it's due...this is Otis's business, he built it from the ground up through a lot of sweat & hard work, through the lean times & the good. From what little I understand their wage standards are actually pretty good, even when members start out as "work for hire" employees during the obligatory 18 month probation period before being made full members. If you're not minding your money or making sure your taxes are being paid by checking the attached receipt on your paycheck that's your problem! It also appears Henderson has a record of turning litigious when things don't go his way! Bo's sound doesn't fit the group, yet Terry's does? Terry doesn't sound like any tempt I've ever heard. Here's the point, things evolve. And I'd rather have Bo, than GC. Bo give me consistency of Performance, he tone goes perfectly with Ron. He knows how to work with these guys already and his voice has proven that the tempts can honor another grammy. Now, say what you will about that grammy, but that album was a slammin pop R & B album and his voice helped to vehicle that album. Now as far as GC is concerned I'll wait on giving a full opinion. |
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Post by MikeNYC on Nov 8, 2003 22:14:17 GMT -5
I haven't seen any quotes from Otis slagging Bo Henderson, but speaking as someone who grew up with those records, & having seen them live countless times since the mid-70's, I don't think Bo fit the Temptations lead vocal sound, as good as he is. Too much vibrato, for one, & he tends to riff too much around the melody. I think G.C. is a much better fit. I also don't know why everybody is so down on Otis Williams &, to a lesser extent, Shelly ("Puppetmaster") Berger. You have to give the man his due for keeping the organization together. I mean, unless you were there or were directly involved, it's rediculous to take sides on arguments & disagreements between band members. It sounds to me like most of the complaints are from disgruntled ex-employees who were let go due to substance abuse problems, unreliability, or because they weren't team players. As much as the music & the memories may mean to you, it's still their JOB...& no different than your job: if you were coming to work high, were chronically late, weren't performing the work to your bosses' expectations & had problems getting along with your coworkers, how long do you think you would last before you were terminated? How likely is it that they'd take you back again & again, or give you as many second, third, fourth, etc. chances as Otis gave David, Dennis, Ollie, Eddie, etc. Not very, is my guess. I say give the man credit where it's due...this is Otis's business, he built it from the ground up through a lot of sweat & hard work, through the lean times & the good. From what little I understand their wage standards are actually pretty good, even when members start out as "work for hire" employees during the obligatory 18 month probation period before being made full members. If you're not minding your money or making sure your taxes are being paid by checking the attached receipt on your paycheck that's your problem! It also appears Henderson has a record of turning litigious when things don't go his way! The reason being is that people can read between the (Coke) lines and reality hit them in the head as far as everybody can't be wrong. As I stated before,the life of an entertainer is not like a 9 to 5 job. As Glenn put it,you don't have time for yourself. You have alot of demands to meet,so it's not that easy. Even people with college degrees in that field,have a hard time. Now, you say Otis built the group from the ground up,how do you know this? Can you explain how this was done? Imean Paul created the style that you see on the stage today,Eddie dressed them up,no Kool & The Gang,Jungle Boogie out fits when he was dressing them. David gave them an electrfying performance that will never be re-created,Dennis was the bridge over troubled water,Melvin gave them a bass sound that nobody comes close to...I don't care who it is that tries,there will never be able to find a Melvin. So,having said that,explain your statement. |
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