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Post by brunneng on Jan 3, 2005 17:30:02 GMT -5
This is the first even remotely negative thing that I have heard about Melvin.  Me too! :shocked To hear about Mel being almost broke and Dennis doing jack hammer work is more than sad! :crying  ...running away with me... |
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Post by kalisa2 on Jan 3, 2005 18:25:05 GMT -5
That is a very interesting story. However in 1980, in order for any deal to be consumated, Otis had to be there somewhere. Melvin may well have told Otis and they called Berry behind Norman's back, but I have a hard time believing that Melvin could or would have done it alone. One of Berry's first questions would have been, Where's Otis? I am not demeaning Melvin in any way by this comment but, IMO, Otis was at that time, the official leader of the group and would have had to have some say in any decision........that being said, Norman said he has never heard a thank you from anybody or anything since the thing happened....meaning to me he does not know the details of said meeting............so it is possible that somewhere down the line Otis was involved. I also find it interesting to note that nowhere in Debbie's excerpt is Otis mentioned. Ashford and Whitfield obviously felt comfortable dealing with Melvin as someone who had the "pull" to make a deal happen. Nor did BG mention Otis when he told Ashford and Whitfield the meeting had happened the day before. But here we are, talkin' about Otis again LOL!! Again, I don't doubt a bit that Otis was involved. Its just that I don't see anybody saying "There's no doubt that Melvin was involved" when something slightly nefarious is being blamed on Otis. Fair is fair. |
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Post by Coey on Jan 5, 2005 23:04:08 GMT -5
I also received another book recently... but I haven't started it yet... called: * I heard you paint houses* by Charles Brandt.. Mafia, teamsters stuff.. I'll get to it ...
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Post by brunneng on Jan 6, 2005 11:13:36 GMT -5
I also received another book recently... but I haven't started it yet... called: * I heard you paint houses* by Charles Brandt.. Mafia, teamsters stuff.. I'll get to it ... We will have to start a thread to give book reviews, Co! :wtg or :sleeping ...day in, day out, my tear-stained face... |
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Post by jusme on Jan 6, 2005 18:50:39 GMT -5
Well, it's my third time reading it but...The Autobiography of Malcolm X, which is my favorite book of all time. I carry it with me everywhere, which may seem a little strange, but I'm strange.
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Post by brunneng on Jan 8, 2005 20:35:02 GMT -5
Well, it's my third time reading it but...The Autobiography of Malcolm X, which is my favorite book of all time. I carry it with me everywhere, which may seem a little strange, but I'm strange. You don't sound strange!!! I like bios and auto-bios best, too! ;D Ever read anything by Otis Williams? ;D ...it's growing... |
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Post by jusme on Jan 8, 2005 23:45:09 GMT -5
Sorry to say I haven't. Well, not really. :laughing
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Post by brunneng on Jan 9, 2005 13:09:28 GMT -5
Sorry to say I haven't. Well, not really.  Try it! Every single person on this board loves the book and totally loves Otis!! :wtg Trust me, justy!  ...don't look back... |
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Post by Aba21 on Jan 30, 2005 19:00:00 GMT -5
Right now I am almost finished with the DIFINITIVE BIOGRAPHY OF WILT CHAMBERLAIN.............To me he was the most misunderstood athlete ever.........He in my opinion was/is the greatest basketball player to ever play the game bar none.........if I had to start a team tomorrow.............and you let me have first pick..........I would take him and give you the next two picks. He was that good. Better than Michael Jordan or anybody else who laced up a pair of sneakers. Of course for me its personal having played with him, and known him for so long, but this book clears up many myths about him including the infamous 20,000 women slept with thing. When he retired from the game he had over 13 pages of records in the NBA, many which still stand but the book is much more than that. It gives you a peek at what's its like to be 7ft tall living in a 6 foot world......I have lived a great deal of what he did......just not to the extent that he did. If you are a historian of the game and its players, then you need to read this book about who changed the game of basketball in so many ways............More rules were changed because of him than any other player. And the biggest thing he dealt with was when he won............he was supposed to cause he was so big.................and when he lost.............how could he? He's so big he should win all the time..............just goes to show you no one man is better than sum of the parts he is surrounded by..........  |
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Post by Coey on Jan 30, 2005 19:06:32 GMT -5
Right now I am almost finished with the DIFINITIVE BIOGRAPHY OF WILT CHAMBERLAIN.............To me he was the most misunderstood athlete ever.........He in my opinion was/is the greatest basketball player to ever play the game bar none.........if I had to start a team tomorrow.............and you let me have first pick..........I would take him and give you the next two picks. He was that good. Better than Michael Jordan or anybody else who laced up a pair of sneakers. Of course for me its personal having played with him, and known him for so long, but this book clears up many myths about him including the infamous 20,000 women slept with thing. When he retired from the game he had over 13 pages of records in the NBA, many which still stand but the book is much more than that. It gives you a peek at what's its like to be 7ft tall living in a 6 foot world......I have lived a great deal of what he did......just not to the extent that he did. If you are a historian of the game and its players, then you need to read this book about who changed the game of basketball in so many ways............More rules were changed because of him than any other player. And the biggest thing he dealt with was when he won............he was supposed to cause he was so big.................and when he lost.............how could he? He's so big he should win all the time..............just goes to show you no one man is better than sum of the parts he is surrounded by.......... Ive read some conflicting information on how tall he was.. some say 7'1 some say 7'4".. do you know? |
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Post by tabby on Jan 30, 2005 19:11:31 GMT -5
I am currently reading Max Frisch's "Stiller." It is a truly great book by a writer to whom words and sentences seem to come naturally.The book is about marriage, the self, and the depth of despair ... An American citizen who wants to visit Switzerland is arrested on the border because someone believed to recognize him as a missing Swiss citizen who is wanted for espionage ... The Swiss author shows his homeland in a not too positive light; neither does he blame one or the other spouse for the disaster they turned their marriage into. Very, very entertaining and at the same time revealing.
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Post by Aba21 on Jan 30, 2005 19:15:29 GMT -5
Ive read some conflicting information on how tall he was.. some say 7'1 some say 7'4".. do you know? He was somewhere in the middle, but he liked to say 7' 1 3/4 inches................ ;D There were two heights that they used when you played. My program height was 6'9" but I am more closer to 6'8"..........they want you to sound as big as you can............ ;D |
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Post by Coey on Jan 30, 2005 19:26:09 GMT -5
Do you know anything about when he was with the Globetrotters? I remember watching them a few times .. Meadowlark Lemon time.....
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Post by Aba21 on Jan 30, 2005 19:35:17 GMT -5
He left college early to play for them................and he played with them every off season for a long time..............Meadowlark Lemon was great! he and Wilt becamse good friends.
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Post by tabby on Jan 30, 2005 19:38:23 GMT -5
Try it! Every single person on this board loves the book and totally loves Otis!! ![]() Trust me, justy! ...don't look back... Oh really? :laughing |
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