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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 9:14:21 GMT -5
I think Eddie's death deserved a little more dramatic license, also. All the others got plenty of it ... Why not him? You've asked and we've answered to the best of the abilities of anybody who wasn't involved in the screenplay nor with the Temptations nor with Otis at the time of Eddie's death. Compare and contrast why? It is obvious the deaths were treated differently, how can we here possibly know why? Time constraints? Lack of respect? How could we know? I've asked, and not been answered, a really easy question, one to which only you know the answer... let me reiterate: "Use of inflammatory words such as obscene...the brainchild of vengeance, hatred and envy maybe... exactly who were you referring to with those words, if not Otis?" Suzanne DePasse, maybe. The screen writers, maybe. Motown, maybe ... I swear I didn't have O. in mind.
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Post by Aba21 on Aug 12, 2005 11:48:24 GMT -5
This thread is about whatever's written in it at the moment!!! I don't know if you're referring to my comments as "fluff" but I wouldn't go there if I was you. I haven't dismissed your comments.....I responded to them. Don't dismiss mine. Now if we want to go back to the subject at hand...that's fine with me. Let's continuuuuuuuuuue!!!!!!!! I'd call it "react" not "respond." There's a fine, fine difference ... Now, let's really cut the fluff .... I think Eddie's death deserved a little more dramatic license, also. All the others got plenty of it ... Why not him? Email the scriptwriter..........he could tell you that.
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 12:03:45 GMT -5
I'd call it "react" not "respond." There's a fine, fine difference ... Now, let's really cut the fluff .... I think Eddie's death deserved a little more dramatic license, also. All the others got plenty of it ... Why not him? Email the scriptwriter..........he could tell you that. Naw ... since nobody's really interested in discussing the topic except me, it's not really worth the effort ((Kalisa)) I have no idea what "gorilla dance" means. Am I right that the term describes roaring loud and scaring people doing ape-like movements to keep attackers away? Kind of a bouncer, so to speak?
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 12:56:16 GMT -5
Naw ... since nobody's really interested in discussing the topic except me, it's not really worth the effort ((Kalisa)) I have no idea what "gorilla dance" means. Am I right that the term describes roaring loud and scaring people doing ape-like movements to keep attackers away? Kind of a bouncer, so to speak? Oh... sorry, I thought you or someone had mentioned that little performance, reported in Raynoma Gordy Singleton's book, about some humiliating thing Gordy requested of dePasse in her early days working for Motown. be right back with the quote... Ok, here goes, from p. 233 of "Berry, Me and Motown" (excerpted for brevity's sake) "Suzanne", Berry called to her. It was during a meeting at his home in Bel Air one day durin ghte summer of '75. Suzanne, though pretty and attractive, battled a bit of a weight problem. Berry often teased her about it, waiting for a crowd to be around for the occasion. At this particular meeting there were about twenty of us on hand when Berry said "Suzanne, get up and show 'em how fat you are. Get up and pretend you're an ape -- be a gorilla for everybody."
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But Suzanne didn't hesitate; nor did she look around. She stood up and began to do this gorilla routine, 'whooo whooo', scratching her armpits and everything. The room roared with laughter, but Suzanne passed the test. I was mortified and embarrassed for her. But it was highly revealing. She didn't give a damn what she had to do; she'd do whatever it would take to make it. "Damned! Now, I remember! Thank you so much Kalisa. That was truly revealing. Hey, maybe Berry had a talk with the script writer, too
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Post by Weak4Weeks on Aug 12, 2005 12:59:26 GMT -5
De Passe Entertainment. 5750 Wilshire Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Telephone: (323)965-2580. Here you can write all your grievances to people who have something to do wit a movie. or even call and complain about it. But you sure have already put a lot of effort into the WE HATE THE MINISERIES IT"S TRASH AND HAS BAD MAKEUP JOBS fund if you ask me, so I made it easy for you
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 13:15:27 GMT -5
De Passe Entertainment. 5750 Wilshire Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90036 Telephone: (323)965-2580. Here you can write all your grievances to people who have something to do wit a movie. or even call and complain about it. But you sure have already put a lot of effort into the WE HATE THE MINISERIES IT"S TRASH AND HAS BAD MAKEUP JOBS fund if you ask me, so I made it easy for you Naw ... since nobody's really interested in discussing the topic except me, it's not really worth the effort
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Post by Weak4Weeks on Aug 12, 2005 13:26:32 GMT -5
Naw ... since nobody's really interested in discussing the topic except me, it's not really worth the effort Perhaps if you got us some hard fact answers, we might be more interested in discussing the topic. As I've stated differently before, all we can do at this point with the facts we have is 'surmise surmise surmise' (using my best Gomer Pyle accent LOL)... which doesn't contribute anything to actual knowledge. I agree. And as long as we stick to the topic at hand I am willing to discuss it
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Post by MissTara on Aug 12, 2005 13:50:24 GMT -5
Hey come guys, at least my (((Grams))) is sportin' the avatar.
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 14:10:26 GMT -5
Naw ... since nobody's really interested in discussing the topic except me, it's not really worth the effort Perhaps if you got us some hard fact answers, we might be more interested in discussing the topic. As I've stated differently before, all we can do at this point with the facts we have is 'surmise surmise surmise' (using my best Gomer Pyle accent LOL)... which doesn't contribute anything to actual knowledge. That was exactly what I had expected to get from those in the know ... but instead what I've got was the same old bashing from the same old people ... Is there some connection between Suzanne and Eddie known that could explain the skimpy treatment of Eddie's death in the movie? Any rumors maybe?
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 14:29:21 GMT -5
Hey come guys, at least my (((Grams))) is sportin' the avatar. Do we always have to drag O. into this discussion? He has nothing to do with this ... ((Kalisa))! Don't hurt yousrelf ... or the wall.
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Post by Weak4Weeks on Aug 12, 2005 15:03:33 GMT -5
That was exactly what I had expected to get from those in the know ... but instead what I've got was the same old bashing from the same old people ... Is there some connection between Suzanne and Eddie known that could explain the skimpy treatment of Eddie's death in the movie? Any rumors maybe? Yeah we all know your the victim...same old song... who needs rumors, theres enough hearsay....
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 15:03:45 GMT -5
((Ed)), I was hoping that at least you were reading and understanding my post. I was saying that Otis did manage to get the movie altered in that he was spared the actual depiction of Melvin's death. He said that in his own book. So, he did have "some say-so," after all. I never claimed that he wrote the script or did anything else more important. I have to go back and see, but I have mentioned Otis once or twice -- and look what people make of such a statement. It's not only amazing, but also highly amusing! As if Otis needs the whole Temptsinfoboard to rush to his rescue; he can stand on his own two (left) feet, I hope. I do understand you. Of course, it's true that Otis got his wish where that scene was concerned but the producer or director was probably thinking of another factor when they decided to simplify the whole thing. In actuality, a series of events lead to the death of Melvin, not just one. If they'd have shot it the way it happened, they would have had to shot a recording scene where Melvin's ankle bleeds and they would have had to add an additional scene from the hospital with Melvin in a coma. It's much easier, less costly and more to the point if they can condense those scenes into one simpler one. It's less to shoot and it takes less time while still getting the point across. I wasn't there but those are the things moviemakers care about - not the wishes of a powerless group member. If I were you, I'd have left out the whole "two left feet" thing. We were doing well before you went there...LOL! Now you've gone and gotten yourself into trouble. Ed ((Ed))! They could have done anything they please to squeeze a little more about Eddie's death into the movie. I, for my part, think that Eddie's death was more substantial to the group's history -- fictional or not -- than Hazel's. Just my opinion, though. And the two left feet are borrowed from a post GlennJr. once made; he had that info straight from an inside source I thought that was quite funny ... Sorry, I didn't see your post earlier ...
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 15:56:59 GMT -5
... and since I am college educated I think the simple english used in your comments can be understood even by me. ... Good, old MOTOWN strategy: KISS!!! ;D
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Post by MissTara on Aug 12, 2005 18:27:33 GMT -5
(((Grams))) You are having way too much fun with Aba. The strategy of a pro! Kill with kindess!
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 20:04:32 GMT -5
(((Grams))) You are having way too much fun with Aba. The strategy of a pro! Kill with kindess! Say It In Broken English
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