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Post by janebse on Sept 29, 2007 17:08:31 GMT -5
Cadeho,
My vote is with you. Just duplicate your statement and put my name on it. Even the two songs of David that you mention would be my choice. Perhaps if I knew enough about music, I could explain my decision in musical terms. When I thought about it, I just thought that Eddie's producers chose songs that he could do effectively and that David's did not seem to suggest the right choices. The two songs you mention have an emotional content, and David seems to be able to convey that.
It's a curious thing but I've been listening to Il Divo, who sing most of their songs in another language than English, and, yet, the emotion comes through. Much like Paul could convey emotion so beautifully and simply. But David often relies on techniques (like screaming or whatevery). When Smokey handled David, he insisted on enunciation, and in those songs, the emotion comes through. But this may have nothing to do with it.
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Post by DC on Sept 29, 2007 17:17:52 GMT -5
Wow thats amazing, because it's the exact opposite for me. Since I purchased David's albums, I can't stop listening to them. Out of all the music I play I play his the most ... In my opinion his solo material is great. I like "My Whole World Ended" buts it's honestly the song of his I play the least. In my opinion he had so many other songs that crush it, but weren't given the chance. It's like you read my mind. I wouldn't have said it any differently. Understandably, it's a matter of personal taste. Some prefer him at half speed; others prefer him at full throttle. I consider myself a David Ruffin fan first and a Temptations fan second. Like you, I prefer the rougher, edgier material that exhibited David's true talents and legendary vocal abilities at their unvarnished and unquestionable peak. Some people prefer his more subdued, refined vocals with the Temptations. That's fine. There are also some who, inexplicably, feel that acknowledging the true quality of David or Eddie's solo work is somehow being disloyal to the Temptations. I generally only take issue when someone attempts to devalue David's solo work on the basis of disappointing record sales or a scurrilous belief that his ego and/or rumored personal behavior singlehandedly caused the demise of the C5. Both show a complete lack of reason or rational thought. Wow Beej, i think we're brothers from another mother lol. I really didn't think anybody felt the same way about Ruffin's solo material as I do. Like you said people have their own preferences and thats fine. But im more of a fan of David's music than the Tempts as well, but thats my preference. And like you I dont like when people try to discredit his solo career by saying he didn't sell because his products weren't good or because he wa son drugs. Like I said Stevie Wonder's classic "Superstition" was booed at the Apollo when Stevie first premiered it there, but Motown promoted it and it became one of his biggest hits. And as far as the drug thing, of course drugs affected him like everybody else but it isn't the reason why his solo career was a disappointment. If thats the case they why didn't anybody bring up his drug problem when he was with the Tempts and they were having hit after hit? Total hypocrisy. Cause Otis clearly said in the book David was on drugs since the mid late 60's but no people bring up his drug use then, because the records he was on were hits. Marvin Gaye was on drugs too, so was Smokey, so was Jimi Hendricks, So was Johnny Cash, So was Teddy P, so was Ray Charles, so were the Beatles, so was Elvis, ect... I think the point is made. The difference is their labels supported their products . |
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Post by Aba21 on Oct 9, 2007 9:33:59 GMT -5
There is no question of David's impact on the group, however when you think of their lead singers, Eddie and Paul have to be right up there. It is what made them the greatest male group of all time IMO. No group had three singer of that impact. When Otis group and Eddie & Paul merged, the question of who was going to sing lead in that combination was very easy to see. Add David and ....well Otis comes in a distant fourth. The writers wrote for the voices andn the voices were Paul, Eddie and then David.
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Post by Beej on Oct 9, 2007 10:32:07 GMT -5
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Post by janebse on Oct 9, 2007 21:24:12 GMT -5
That's what I liked about the Tempts. They varied their lead singer. Occasionally Melvin and Otis sang lead, but I don't think Otis ever wanted to be a lead singer, except in bits and pieces. Anyway, that's what made the Tempts unique. I really do not like the albums where almost every song has the same lead singer. I love the variety. And I love the ensemble pieces. While I really liked Eddie as a lead singer, I thought when he was singing backup he did a fantastic job. In "Runaway Child" his sounds made the record exceptional. I play that song just to hear Eddie make all those sounds.
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Post by Jonesesgirl on Oct 14, 2007 16:27:31 GMT -5
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Post by eyehearttempts on Oct 14, 2007 17:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by lightdion on Oct 22, 2007 2:45:47 GMT -5
I don.t know, but it seemed like somthing the real Ruffin would say lol.
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