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Post by ramzy on Jan 30, 2008 20:57:38 GMT -5
Oh god! This is too sad. Keeping the guys from making a living is certainly not alright. I hope they'll find a way to get rid of this messy issue ... And I hope all the members of the licensed Tempts know by now with whom they are dealing. Yeah that Otis is a piece of work. But the sad fact is right now there is no " licensed" Tempt of significance.
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Post by AnnaK on Jan 30, 2008 21:03:36 GMT -5
Oh god! This is too sad. Keeping the guys from making a living is certainly not alright. I hope they'll find a way to get rid of this messy issue ... And I hope all the members of the licensed Tempts know by now with whom they are dealing. Yeah that Otis is a piece of work. But the sad fact is right now there is no " licensed" Tempt of significance. Not even Ron? I like him, although his voice has suffered a bit, which is only normal considering his age.
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Post by BASSSINGER on Jan 31, 2008 12:48:37 GMT -5
As much as I respect your opinion(s), Otis is not prohibiting anyone from working, he is simply saying you cannot use the name Temptations in any form because of trademark registration laws, and copyright infringement.
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Post by AnnaK on Jan 31, 2008 13:27:05 GMT -5
With all due respect, even almighty O. can't "prohibit" anything. But what he does -- and what his objective is -- is "keeping" certain people from performing, which is their way of earning a living.
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Post by BASSSINGER on Jan 31, 2008 16:07:00 GMT -5
With all due respect, even almighty O. can't "prohibit" anything. But what he does -- and what his objective is -- is "keeping" certain people from performing, which is their way of earning a living. Beej posted a response to this very same issue that is being rehashed again. The post was made on November 2, 2007 at 4:35 under "OTIS ON THE WAR PATH", and if I may I would like to quote part Beej's post. QUOTE: The timing of the lawsuit is not because Glenn, Ollie, and Bo are so "legendary" that Otis resents them or that they're out-performing The Temptations. Lawsuits of this magnitude are a tedious process. It takes time to collect evidence and build a solid case. In an action seeking damages to the extent of this one, there's no reason to rush things. Again, no one is stating that they can't refer to their time with the Temptations in their name or promotional material...only that they can't do it in a way that violates trademark law or misleads audiences. They clearly appear to have willfully done both over an extended period of time."END QUOTE" Otis is not trying to stop any of these guys from performing. He is simply saying that you can not use a registered trademarked copyrighted name, i.e., The Temptations.
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Post by AnnaK on Jan 31, 2008 16:24:55 GMT -5
Fact to me is that Otis has stopped the guys from performing ... at least for now. That's all I was saying. I don't know about the others who commented on the issue ... And yes -- I do think Otis Williams would love to stop them for good. That's, of course, just my opinion -- as all speculations about a person's intentions are. Peace!
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Post by Melody on Feb 2, 2008 17:06:13 GMT -5
Happy New Year (((((((((((((((((((((((Everybody)))))))))))))))))!!
Hey (((((Basssinger))))! I may be wrong, but I think in this instance, it was not a thing of them building a case against (((The Legendary Lead Singers of the Temptations)))) until the Vegas engagements. I think it was the Vegas engagement that brought everything to a head. I think if the Legendary Lead Singers of the Temptations had just did gigs here and there like in the past, that (((Otis))) would not have taken any actions, but having a nightly Vegas engagement changed things. Even Otis is not working nightly. TTYAL!
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Post by janebse on Feb 2, 2008 19:42:26 GMT -5
Melody, I think you've got it right.
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Post by temptsman39 on Sept 19, 2008 15:35:50 GMT -5
Now I Think that every person in the group deserves a chance to sing with the name the temptations but not just that name. Put a revue or something, then i think its ok
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Post by smooth on Nov 3, 2008 11:18:55 GMT -5
While I understand how you may feel, once again it's the use of the name, "LEGENDARY LEAD SINGERS OF THE TEMPTATIONS". Otis has never professed to be a lead singer. In fact he himself has said on numerous occasions that he was a background vocalist. You may not like the guy but you have to appreciate his vocal abilities in the background. I challenge you to sit down and listen. Otis has excellent vocal range. As I may or may not agree with you, I will say that Ali Woodson had a very dramatic impact on the group's sound. His vocal range was second to none and his voice could be considered as one of those legendary voices that kept the Temptations out in the forefront as to what they were noted for as well as the choreography. Let's stay focus and realize the Ali is with The Review and not with Glenn, Bo, and G. C.. As for Glenn I cannot and will not take anything away from the fact that he is a natural 1st tenor and as for his beautiful rendition of Silent Night it was great song styling, but once again it is the name. "Legendary Lead Singers of The Temptations". None of which could legitimately claim legendary status. I hear you but again in the case of Glenn I have to disagree with you. Fact is there is no bigger selling album by The Tempts than their Christmas album. And every true blood Tempt fan knows its because of Silent Night. And yes I know Ali is not with the group in question but I talking whats morally right. The man was the voice of Temptations for more than a decade. Otis disses these brothers like they never went through any thing together. But I for one feel personally that they have every right to tell people who they are and what they have done. I agree as far as Bo GC and some of the others are concerned but Ali Glenn and even Richard are legendary. I thought Phoenix Rising was their biggest selling album,Their christmas album didn't even make the charts.I think its fair to say that their earlier albums did better than that Christmas album you speak of.But anyway Otis being the original should have the power,because if it weren't for him the replacements wouldn't be in the group
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Post by ramzy on Nov 7, 2008 15:43:07 GMT -5
No it didnt make the charts but over time they sold more copies of that than anything else.
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Post by smooth on Dec 23, 2008 11:41:48 GMT -5
Where did you find out about that,because I believe Otis said Phoenix Rising was their most successful album in terms of sales ever
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Post by stilltempting21 on Dec 24, 2008 13:25:36 GMT -5
i believe otis is trying to protect the name "Temptations" because none of them named even sang when the tempts when they became legendary during the Ruffin, and Edwards area. So for Bo to try to say he is a legendary singer of the tempts in my opinion tarnishes the name temptations...same for glenn, and ali not taking away from there talent but they are not legendary singers of the tempts because they all were riding the coat tails of what the classic 5 and the HOF 6 already accomplished. They are just trying to make a buck off of something they were apart of but didn't create and thats wrong!! If they want to use the name temptations in any way they shouldn't be singing the songs they didn't record...so BO shouldn't be singing my girl or i wish it would rain...he should just sing the 2 and half albums he recorded being phonex rising, earresitable, and awesome and leave it at that! same with ali, glenn, and whoever else is trying to use the name!!
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Post by DrTemptation "Doc T" on Dec 24, 2008 19:23:03 GMT -5
i believe otis is trying to protect the name "Temptations" because none of them named even sang when the tempts when they became legendary during the Ruffin, and Edwards area. So for Bo to try to say he is a legendary singer of the tempts in my opinion tarnishes the name temptations...same for glenn, and ali not taking away from there talent but they are not legendary singers of the tempts because they all were riding the coat tails of what the classic 5 and the HOF 6 already accomplished. They are just trying to make a buck off of something they were apart of but didn't create and thats wrong!! If they want to use the name temptations in any way they shouldn't be singing the songs they didn't record...so BO shouldn't be singing my girl or i wish it would rain...he should just sing the 2 and half albums he recorded being phonex rising, earresitable, and awesome and leave it at that! same with ali, glenn, and whoever else is trying to use the name!! I agree...Bo and Glenn and Ali are great X-Temptations in their on right.......They are not Legendary, or else they would be in the rock n roll hall of fame. Being an X-Temptation says A LOT - They once sang with the Greatest Black male singing group
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Post by cliogirl on Jun 3, 2010 9:24:32 GMT -5
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