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Post by Ivory Fair on Sept 2, 2003 23:41:49 GMT -5
Can't BELIEVE I left one out..........
The Temptations
DA-HUH!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Dbaby on Sept 3, 2003 8:03:59 GMT -5
Yeah! GEEZE IVORY! I was wondering...
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Post by Dbaby on Sept 3, 2003 8:04:35 GMT -5
Oh my gosh! And I left out Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter (I think, can't really remember!)!!!!!!
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Post by kim on Sept 3, 2003 12:20:48 GMT -5
"Let's Do It Again" "Shaft" (the original) "Color Purple" "Coming To America" "A Soldiers Story" "Friday" "The Best Man" "Barbershop" "Love And Basketball" "Rosewood" "Blazing Saddles" "Devil In A Blue Dress" "Roots" I & II "Grease"
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Post by Aba21 on Sept 3, 2003 13:18:53 GMT -5
"Let's Do It Again" "Shaft" (the original) "Color Purple" "Coming To America" "A Soldiers Story" "Friday" "The Best Man" "Barbershop" "Love And Basketball" "Rosewood" "Blazing Saddles" "Devil In A Blue Dress" "Roots" I & II "Grease" Kim's list is pretty good and i will add to it: Gone With The Wind The Five Heartbeats From Russia With Love NorthTo Alaska The Shootist Shootout At The OK Corral (Burt Lancaster) The Wizard Of Oz Sgt. York (Gary Cooper) High Noon Giant The Pit & the Pendelum (Vicent Price) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
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Post by kim on Sept 3, 2003 13:54:25 GMT -5
"High Noon" that is an all time classic ABA!!! I purchased that on videotape..... I forgot another one of my favorites "Claudine"!! (doing my Gladys Knight impersonation) "Keep away from me....Mr. Welfare!!"...."Hugging and a lovin....getting with the kissing!"...."Make yours a happy home!" That soundtrack is dynamite!! Classic Gladys produced by the genius Curtis Mayfield.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Sept 3, 2003 15:05:39 GMT -5
Did someone say LORD OF THE RINGS!!!! ;D I've noticed a lot of us have "Gone with the Wind" on our lists, myself included. Here's an interesting debate: I think it's clear to all of us that the movie showed African Americans in a less than positive light. While I could argue that "Mammy" was perhaps the smartest character in the whole movie (she's the only one Scarlett can't fool) the rest of the black cast members end up with lines like "Mrs. O'Hara said we'z gonna go dig ditches fo the white folks!" or one of my favorites "40 acres an a mule? Geeze!" So do we just shrug it off as how things were accepted at the time of the movie's production? Or is it something to be ashamed of? Should Gone With the Wind go the way of Song of the South? www.snopes.com/disney/films/sots.htmI guess what bugs me is that the director apparently went to great lengths to make sure that the "slaves" sounded "authentic" yet let white actors like Clark Gable and Lesley Howard (Ashley) talk in their normal accents. "Ashley" sounded like he'd just left a staring role as "Hamlet." Not to mention the infamous "Prissy" slapping scene. Thoughts anyone?
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Post by Ivory Fair on Sept 3, 2003 15:08:15 GMT -5
And on a side note .............. can I get a survey of how many people have seen "The Sound of Music"? That was probably my most memorable movie from childhood yet I'm always amazed at how few people, esp. of my generation, have seen it.
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Post by kim on Sept 3, 2003 15:46:03 GMT -5
I absolutely hate Gone With The Wind. Mainly because of its unfair portrayal of slavery. I don't believe for one minute that slaves were upset that the South actually lost that war. The fact that they were so joyful and happy running around singing when they were SLAVES makes a mockery of what our ancestors went through. That is why ROOTS was such an important film because it actually showed how horrible slavery actually was. It was the first time I really recognized what slaves went through. Even though I was 11 when ROOTs first aired. It stuck with me for the rest of my life. I try to appreciate the gift of freedom because so many of my family members didn't get that chance to.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Sept 3, 2003 16:57:05 GMT -5
Well I think we'd all agree that African Americans don't think as a unit. Many southern blacks were opposed to the civil rights movement (Congressman John Lewis' mother wrote him a letter during the Nashville sit-ins begging him to "please don't bother the white people, they've always treated you so kindly") so I don't think it's too far fetched to say that there were slaves who were UNHAPPY that slavery had ended. Now whether or not that was the DOMINANT way of thought is another matter, but you're looking at an entire way of life being disrupted. Hindsight is 20/20 and if your world was turned upside down, even if doing so BENEFITED you, it's not inconceivable that there were some slaves who were unhappy. Slaves went off to fight WITH their white masters in the civil war. Stranger things have happened. But I'm not sure where in the movie slaves where shown being HAPPY the south lost the war. I mean there were scenes of "Big Sam" marching off to help the Confederacy but there were other scenes like the "40 acres and a mule" bit I mentioned above and there's the African American carpet bagger riding in the buggy with the old Tara overseer. He certainly seemed to be happy with his new lot in life (and who could blame him?) But I don't remember seeing Pork or Uncle Peter shedding any tears or anything.
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Post by iratherlikeme on Sept 3, 2003 19:34:01 GMT -5
Probably for the wrong reasons. I think Dr. King called it [seeking a] "negative peace."
That sounds like something straight out of Malcolm X. That's the house slave talking... When the master is sick, here comes the house slave. "What's the matter, boss? We sick?" There probably weren't too many field slaves unhappy about their freedom. Maybe some house slaves, though.
Stranger things like slaveowners making their slaves go with them?
I've never seen Gone With The Wind. I tried to read The Wind Done Gone but that woman had me confused.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Sept 4, 2003 10:46:07 GMT -5
Well, yes, I'm sure that was the case for most of the slaves who fought for the Confederacy but then you have examples of slaves being hung along WITH their masters because they ALSO refused to give up the secrets they were carrying (their master was a spy.)
So I'm sure there are as many stories as there were people involved, that's not even getting into the confusing area of mixed slaves, the sons of white slave owners who fought for the confederacy because they could pass.
It's all very complicated.
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Post by Aba21 on Sept 4, 2003 14:17:25 GMT -5
"High Noon" that is an all time classic ABA!!! I purchased that on videotape..... I forgot another one of my favorites "Claudine"!! (doing my Gladys Knight impersonation) "Keep away from me....Mr. Welfare!!"...."Hugging and a lovin....getting with the kissing!"...."Make yours a happy home!" That soundtrack is dynamite!! Classic Gladys produced by the genius Curtis Mayfield. Oh yeah....I love that soundtrack.....and yes Ivory I have thre copies of that lp!!!!! ;D
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Post by ZetaLady6 on Sept 4, 2003 18:22:58 GMT -5
I do have a hard time when I see slaves singing negro spirituals smiling in movies. They did not sing of happiness! Also, I don't think there were any unhappy slaves when slavery was over, perhaps at a loss for words or knowledge to do anything other than what they knew but happiness....that's a little far fetched.
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Post by Dbaby on Sept 4, 2003 20:29:09 GMT -5
Yeah! Like, this summer my youth group went to Atlanta, and I REFUSED to go back home until we saw all the MLK Jr. stuff, so we went and it was great, only, to prove a point or something they had all these pieces of art on this wall that was just slaves, but they were all smiling while they were doing their work! And there was thing sign thing I think that said something about how not right that was...
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