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Post by janebse on Jan 10, 2009 21:13:41 GMT -5
I'd love to hear either comments or actual information on how The Temptations will observe the 50th Anniversary of Motown. I am assuming they will be a part of Gordy's documentary, but I suspect that might just be clips from the past.
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Post by Cadeho on Jan 11, 2009 17:21:31 GMT -5
I missed it. I wonder if it'll air again? Hip-O has released a huge boxset of all of Motown's number 1 hits from its beginning to 2000 for the 50th anniversary. I'd love to have a long documentary on Motown with all the information and artists covered in the Complete Singles series. Give the Funk Brothers more recognition as well as the Andantes.
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Post by smooth on Jan 11, 2009 22:19:10 GMT -5
I missed it. I wonder if it'll air again? Hip-O has released a huge boxset of all of Motown's number 1 hits from its beginning to 2000 for the 50th anniversary. I'd love to have a long documentary on Motown with all the information and artists covered in the Complete Singles series. Give the Funk Brothers more recognition as well as the Andantes. Most definitely,the funk brothers had their own documentary entitled Standing In The Shadows of Motown,they got their credit right there,whether they get more or not we shall see,but their contribution was told to the world through that documentary,now its time for the Andantes who can be heard on all of the Four Tops hits on Motown and on some of The Supremes songs as well as other acts,the only Temptation hit they can be heard on is Its Growing and the other song is Just Another Lonely Night,and we have Otis to thank for that,but yeah I agree the Andantes definitely need their props,its about time. "Just Ask The Lonely" |
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Post by janebse on Jan 14, 2009 22:04:05 GMT -5
From what I've read I believe the Gordy documentary will be out in late summer or early fall.
This past week I read an article that praised the Andantes over and over again, even go so far as to claim they were on the background of every Motown song. So I guess the Andantes will be a part of the documentary.
This week Duke Fakir and Martha Reeves are signing autographs in some store in Detroit in honor of Motown's 50th. I suspect there will be a lot of these special appearances in Detroit.
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Post by janebse on Jan 14, 2009 22:04:53 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot, The article also mentioned The Temptations and the Supremes as being part of the documentary. I guess everyone just assumed they would, at least, be mentioned.
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Post by smooth on Jan 15, 2009 8:56:32 GMT -5
From what I've read I believe the Gordy documentary will be out in late summer or early fall. This past week I read an article that praised the Andantes over and over again, even go so far as to claim they were on the background of every Motown song. So I guess the Andantes will be a part of the documentary. This week Duke Fakir and Martha Reeves are signing autographs in some store in Detroit in honor of Motown's 50th. I suspect there will be a lot of these special appearances in Detroit. They were on every Four Top song and maybe Supreme song,but the only songs they were on regarding The Tempts were Its Growing and Just Another Lonely Night.And when they were on the songs,Otis asked that their vocals be recorded much lower than The Tempts vocals,yeah Otis.The Andantes can take credit on those 4 tops songs,but not for the temptation and miracle songs,because according to those acapellas its strictly The Tempts and Miracles that can be heard.The Miracles and The Tempts sang their own harmonies as can be witnessed when they were recording My Girl ,if the andantes cant be heard they aint on the song,their harmonies are so recognizable,they clearly standout.That female voice we hear on The Miracles is Claudette Robinson,The Tempts and Miracles didnt need the Andantes.lol |
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Post by smooth on Jan 15, 2009 9:21:49 GMT -5
I just want to add that the four tops didnt need them either,its just that Holland Dozier Holland like using the Andantes.I like the 4tops better without the andantes,no disrespect intended.Hearing the 4 tops sing their songs live you get an appreciation for their harmonies especially when they sang that medley of Bernadette and Reach Out and Sugar Pie Honey Bunch on Ed Sullivan.When they left motown they sang their own harmonies by themselves and it is evident on Aint No Woman Like The One I've Got and of course before they joined motown it was just them harmonizing,they were great either way
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Post by Cadeho on Jan 19, 2009 5:41:57 GMT -5
Smooth you had two with "It's Growing" and "Just Another Lonely Night" but there were a couple more songs the Andantes sang background with the Tempts. I also read that Melvin was the one who spoke up and said they shouldn't have them on their songs. The Andantes are also on "That'll be the Day," "Last One Out Is Brokenhearted" (their finest vocals with the Tempts) and "Get Ready" (yes they're on there in the chorus, kind of buried). It seems they only sang on songs, recorded in 1965 with the Tempts. There were a few songs I wondered if they were buried in the mix, so I skipped noting those as I wasn't sure. The Andantes just weren't the Tempts sound as with the Tops.
They sang with just about everyone. The Miracles as you noted were absent of Andantes, however there may be a track or two with them, you never know. They were also very rarely featured on Gladys Knight & the Pips songs and they never recorded with the Jackson 5. But they sang on perhaps 95% of Motown's material from 1961 to 1972. The first song they recall that all three sang was Eddie Holland's "Jamie." They filled out the Supremes' sound at times, not always, at least before the name change. The Marvelettes, Vandellas, and Velvelettes featured their members until the mid to late 60s. I find it amazing people didn't realize that it was Diana & The Andantes, Martha Reeves & The Andantes, Cal Street & The Andates, Wanda Rogers & The Andantes. The Andantes even sang background on The Andantes (Ann Bogan & The Andantes). But listen closely, they were everywhere.
So I hope for the special they include the Andantes, The Funk Brothers, the contribution of the Rayber Singers, the Lovetones, the Originals, everyone! The gospel groups, the country singers, the middle-of-the-road singers, the rock bands, the Chisa label, the obscure groups and singers, the producers, song-writers etc, that all helped build Motown. I hope they cover more than the golden era... interview The Boys, Another Bad Creation, The Good Girls... where are they now?
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Post by Cadeho on Jan 21, 2009 9:14:32 GMT -5
I'll say it's official! Happy 50th Motown! Today marks the 50th anniversary of Tamla's first single, Marv Johnson's "Come to Me/Whisper."
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Post by smooth on Jan 27, 2009 10:09:20 GMT -5
Smooth you had two with "It's Growing" and "Just Another Lonely Night" but there were a couple more songs the Andantes sang background with the Tempts. I also read that Melvin was the one who spoke up and said they shouldn't have them on their songs. The Andantes are also on "That'll be the Day," "Last One Out Is Brokenhearted" (their finest vocals with the Tempts) and "Get Ready" (yes they're on there in the chorus, kind of buried). It seems they only sang on songs, recorded in 1965 with the Tempts. There were a few songs I wondered if they were buried in the mix, so I skipped noting those as I wasn't sure. The Andantes just weren't the Tempts sound as with the Tops. They sang with just about everyone. The Miracles as you noted were absent of Andantes, however there may be a track or two with them, you never know. They were also very rarely featured on Gladys Knight & the Pips songs and they never recorded with the Jackson 5. But they sang on perhaps 95% of Motown's material from 1961 to 1972. The first song they recall that all three sang was Eddie Holland's "Jamie." They filled out the Supremes' sound at times, not always, at least before the name change. The Marvelettes, Vandellas, and Velvelettes featured their members until the mid to late 60s. I find it amazing people didn't realize that it was Diana & The Andantes, Martha Reeves & The Andantes, Cal Street & The Andates, Wanda Rogers & The Andantes. The Andantes even sang background on The Andantes (Ann Bogan & The Andantes). But listen closely, they were everywhere. So I hope for the special they include the Andantes, The Funk Brothers, the contribution of the Rayber Singers, the Lovetones, the Originals, everyone! The gospel groups, the country singers, the middle-of-the-road singers, the rock bands, the Chisa label, the obscure groups and singers, the producers, song-writers etc, that all helped build Motown. I hope they cover more than the golden era... interview The Boys, Another Bad Creation, The Good Girls... where are they now? I know about Last One Out is Brokenhearted and That'll Be The Day,but they werent released.I dont hear them on Get Ready,that sounds like Ruffin,Ruffin could hit those high notes also,him and Otis as well as Paul,that mainly sounds like David.On the record you cant hear them at all,and on the acapella,it sounds like Ruffin.The Andantes werent part of The Temptation sound,so they arent relevant to the Tempts,no disrespect.The Andantes have a unique vocal blend,if you cant hear them they aint on there |
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Post by smooth on Jan 27, 2009 10:10:55 GMT -5
That high voice in the Tempts harmony is Eddie Kendricks,that goes with All I Need,Its You That I Need,I'm Losing You,they were absent from the Tempts also
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Post by Cadeho on Feb 1, 2009 11:43:30 GMT -5
No disrespect to you either, but The Andantes in their book Motown from the Background admitted they were on "Get Ready." You really have to listen closely, they go higher than the guys. Motown played a lot of tricks back in the day, this was one of those revealed.
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Post by smooth on Feb 4, 2009 8:06:12 GMT -5
No disrespect to you either, but The Andantes in their book Motown from the Background admitted they were on "Get Ready." You really have to listen closely, they go higher than the guys. Motown played a lot of tricks back in the day, this was one of those revealed. Okay,but their voices are still recorded much lower than The Tempts. It sounds like they only sing the get ready part in high voices. So that is them that I hear when they say get ready in high voices,I'm not surprised, but on the ahh's that's The Tempts it still sounds like.The Andantes ahh's sound like the ahh's from Bernadette,which sound completely different on Get Ready. I still only hear Ruffin's,Otis',and Paul's voices on the ahh's,maybe the andantes voices were recorded much lower on the ahh's,so low that you can barely hear or cant hear at all.lol.They still werent part of the temptations sound though. When I hear the andantes I think of the Four Tops and The Supremes.The only Tempts records that was released where you can hear them are Its Growing and Just Another Lonely Night,other than that they're irrelevant to the Tempts sound. If you cant hear them what difference does it make.lol |
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Post by Cadeho on Feb 4, 2009 15:06:51 GMT -5
They are on the "ahhs", "babys" and "get readys" (before the "get ready cause here I come" ... they're not on those parts). They weren't really meant to be prominent. Just like with the Supremes, they may be or may not be there, you're not supposed to tell. The Andantes weren't a part of the Tempts sound, but they were a part of the overall Motown sound. It's not about if I can hear them or not, they contribute to the song and it's a fact it's one Tempts song they did.
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Post by DrTemptation "Doc T" on Feb 4, 2009 21:55:58 GMT -5
FOOD FOR THOUGHT
The Andantes were a prolific female session singing group for the Motown record label during the 1960s. Comprising Jackie Hicks, Marlene Barrow, and Louvain Demps, the group sang background vocals on numerous[citation needed] Motown recordings, including songs by Martha Reeves & the Vandellas, The Temptations, Stevie Wonder, Jimmy Ruffin, Edwin Starr, Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, among others, along with the occasional non-Motown recording (Jackie Wilson's hit "Whispers (Gettin' Louder)" being one example). Barrow also substituted for Florence Ballard of The Supremes in concert on several occasions.
The Andantes were most prominently used on all of the Four Tops' Holland-Dozier-Holland-produced hits, including "Baby I Need Your Loving", "I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)", "Reach Out I'll Be There", and more. The Andantes were used on Motown singles starting in 1962. The Andantes were used as substitutes for Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong on many of the Diana Ross & the Supremes recordings done in 1968 and 1969. They were also called upon to overdub and smooth out the The Marvelettes' background vocals records; the producers had this done without the Marvelettes' knowledge. The final Marvelettes album, The Return of the Marvelettes, was actually recorded by Marvelette Wanda Young with the Andantes, not her bandmates, on backgrounds.
The group also issued two singles of their own: "Just Be Yourself"/"I Can't Help It I've Got To Dance" (1963) and "(Like A) Nightmare" / "If You Were Mine" (1964).
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