Hall of Fame Induction

[AnnaKonda]

Ah, I see, you want to talk Ivory into loving me Well, try your luck ...

[selfishreasons]

AnnaKonda said:

Ah, I see, you want to talk Ivory into loving me Well, try your luck ...

Everybody loves you. You know it.

[AnnaKonda]

You are truly generous. You're right. We shouldn't be stingy when it comes to love ...

[MikeNYC]

Ivory said:

That means you love me too 'since I'm the one who actually recorded, converted, uploaded and stored the clip, right? Cheech just discovered the link on my site. The clips' been up there for months.

Y'all can speculate about what may have gone on when the cameras were turned off if you want, but *I* choose to enjoy the happieness they SEEMED to have for one another. To my knowledge, that was the last time they ever sang together and Anna's right, they sounded beautiful.

When Otis puts his arm around Melvin, it chokes me up everytime.

Yeah,only to turn around and portray Melvin as a skirt chaser when he got shot! That chokes me up,too.

[selfishreasons]

nothing wrong with chasing skirts.

[MikeNYC]

Cheech© said:

nothing wrong with chasing skirts.

True,but not to portray it in a way that never happened. Maybe that's what got Melvin's family upset?

[selfishreasons]

MikeNYC said:

True,but not to portray it in a way that never happened. Maybe that's what got Melvin's family upset?

That's possible. I might be upset if that weren't true. Didn't the book say he saw a friend he hadn't seen in a while or something?

[MikeNYC]

Cheech© said:

That's possible. I might be upset if that weren't true. Didn't the book say he saw a friend he hadn't seen in a while or something?

That friend could have been Dennis,could have been you.

[selfishreasons]

I agree. I don't know who the friend was.

[Peach]

:banghead :banghead
Stupid a** dial up connection....

I can hear them talking but I can't see a bloody thing.

Still, good to hear Melvin's great voice. :inlove

Peach

[Ivory Fair]

Peach, if it makes you feel any better, the video quality is pretty bad.

[MikeNYC]

Ivory said:

Peach, if it makes you feel any better, the video quality is pretty bad.

Let's compare...post the Donnie Simpson interview with Dennis & Eddie...let's see how bad it is!

[Peach]

Ivory said:

Peach, if it makes you feel any better, the video quality is pretty bad.

Ahhhh.....well, now I'm not so frustrated. (Not too much!) ;D

Peach

[Budrocket]

> Now, what strikes me in the moive is that Shelly told
> Otis And Melvin at the ceremony that Dave, Dennis, and
> Ed were there. He said it like they weren't supposed
> to be there. What's the deal with that?

The deal with that is that TV movies are produced by a committee of suits that have no talent for anything but bean-counting & corporate ass kissing. It's not an "artist-driven" medium; the programming is there to sell soap powder & deoderant, & they do that by appealing to the lowest-common denominator & under-estimating the intelligence of their audience.

Of course they knew those guys would be there & who was being inducted. What you saw in the movie was a total fabrication, a cheap dramatic device to elicit a base response: Conflict #12, drempt up by some poor hack at a work processor in a grotty little apartment in Century City who was hoping to be able to pay his rent that week. "Certain scenes have been dramatised," as they like to say.

Having worked at a major network for a few years, I can promise you Otis had NO spin or editorial control over the final product -- you see how far it departed from the book.

It's basically typical TV bio-pic garbage. I like it for the musical sequences, which I think are handled very well, "Papa" in particular. That was a rare moment of inspired cinematography that somehow slipped through the neutering effect of the Standards & Practices department. But even then they couldn't get "who sang what" correct...not that I would expect them to anyway. Those are the kind of details the producers wouldn't know or even care about (or expect the audience to).

[kalisa2]

Budrocket said:

> Now, what strikes me in the moive is that Shelly told
> Otis And Melvin at the ceremony that Dave, Dennis, and
> Ed were there. He said it like they weren't supposed
> to be there. What's the deal with that?

The deal with that is that TV movies are produced by a committee of suits that have no talent for anything but bean-counting & corporate ass kissing. It's not an "artist-driven" medium; the programming is there to sell soap powder & deoderant, & they do that by appealing to the lowest-common denominator & under-estimating the intelligence of their audience.

Of course they knew those guys would be there & who was being inducted. What you saw in the movie was a total fabrication, a cheap dramatic device to elicit a base response: Conflict #12, drempt up by some poor hack at a work processor in a grotty little apartment in Century City who was hoping to be able to pay his rent that week. "Certain scenes have been dramatised," as they like to say.

Having worked at a major network for a few years, I can promise you Otis had NO spin or editorial control over the final product -- you see how far it departed from the book.

It's basically typical TV bio-pic garbage. I like it for the musical sequences, which I think are handled very well, "Papa" in particular. That was a rare moment of inspired cinematography that somehow slipped through the neutering effect of the Standards & Practices department. But even then they couldn't get "who sang what" correct...not that I would expect them to anyway. Those are the kind of details the producers wouldn't know or even care about (or expect the audience to).

Having worked at a major network for a few years, I can promise you Otis had NO spin or editorial control over the final product -- you see how far it departed from the book.

budrocket,

Does this hold true even though Otis is listed as one of the producers? (as opposed to just having the movie "based on the book by...")