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Post by MissTara on Nov 12, 2007 11:47:23 GMT -5
But using a name which has commercial value in its fame may include different factors. I do not know to whom the blame goes but I have seen on Ticketmaster and in advertisements a picture of THE TEMPTATIONS when the group that is appearing is NOT the Temptations even though one or two may have been former Temptations. I agree with not using former members pictures to advertise the show. Like I've said, and many others have said, the average fan out there in the audience doesn't know who sings what. As far as the blame game, whether it be Otis or ticketmaster or who ever else, It only takes a hold harmless/waiver of liability agreement to shut that up. (Sorry I dont have a nicer way to say it) Who ever works for a company that is hired to do a show may or may not sign one, but if they do....well...On with the show |
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Post by AnnaK on Nov 12, 2007 13:19:26 GMT -5
But using a name which has commercial value in its fame may include different factors. I do not know to whom the blame goes but I have seen on Ticketmaster and in advertisements a picture of THE TEMPTATIONS when the group that is appearing is NOT the Temptations even though one or two may have been former Temptations. I agree with not using former members pictures to advertise the show. Like I've said, and many others have said, the average fan out there in the audience doesn't know who sings what. As far as the blame game, whether it be Otis or ticketmaster or who ever else, It only takes a hold harmless/waiver of liability agreement to shut that up. (Sorry I dont have a nicer way to say it) Who ever works for a company that is hired to do a show may or may not sign one, but if they do....well...On with the show I also don't think it is right to sell the latest DvD making potential buyers believe they get a product with the C5. Several customers have complaint about that issue ... AK |
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Post by MissTara on Nov 12, 2007 13:33:11 GMT -5
I also don't think it is right to sell the latest DvD making potential buyers believe they get a product with the C5. Several customers have complaint about that issue ... AK The latest DVD being the Gettin Ready, or whatever it was? Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with these things that have been released here lately (If there is another one I don't know about) I thought the "Ready" DVD had the C5 on it? You must be talking about a DVD I don't know about. Which one is it? |
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Post by MissTara on Nov 12, 2007 13:40:14 GMT -5
Oh, I see the Back to Front CD..My bad. Geez, I didnt know that it had a pic of the c5 on it
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Post by AnnaK on Nov 12, 2007 13:41:46 GMT -5
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Post by AnnaK on Nov 12, 2007 13:48:11 GMT -5
Oh, I see the Back to Front CD..My bad. Geez, I didnt know that it had a pic of the c5 on it I must say, though, that the "Back To Front" cover is okay with me. It doesn't really show faces. So, theoretically it could be any lineup of the Tempts. Very smart idea, imo. |
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Post by MissTara on Nov 12, 2007 13:51:04 GMT -5
I understand that the link you sent has the C5 on the cover, and agree that it is misleading, well sort of. Like Beej said we all know who does what and who is still alive. A lot of people don't even know David, Eddie, Paul & Melvin are dead, I'm sure. These folks don't know that there are enough ex-temptations to make 4 or 5 groups. If Otis owns/will own "The Temptations" name in any form, he can use whatever picture he wants, unfortunately. But this CD is not the first to have a group of singers not even on the CD. |
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Post by Melody on Nov 12, 2007 17:22:16 GMT -5
I tell y'all this thread is so interesting!
((Jane))), The different groups that sing Temptations' songs have been around some years, and I do not think that they have damaged the Temptations' reputation, and as a hard core Temptation fan, I would know that. Fans want to hear the Temptations' songs, and that's what it's always been about. Yes there are some singers you're going to like more than others, but the bottom line is those Temptations songs. As far as people being disappointed with a group's performance that goes without saying. You cannot please everybody.
I don't know what the judge is going to decide, but I stand by my position that (((Otis)))) should not be awarded any damages, because he did not stop the using of the name right away. If it's decided the only relief that should be given is that no one else be able to use "The Temptations" name in any form in advertising as a group. TTYAL!
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Post by AnnaK on Nov 12, 2007 17:36:27 GMT -5
((Melody)) You make a good point when you say that people want to hear the songs. I agree with that. I attended a "Motown Tribute" show not too long ago, and I loved all the songs the group sang. They were very good, however. And they presented the material with style. I knew they weren't the Tempts or the Tops or whoever ... I knew the songs, though, and that they were sung flawlessly.
And I agree with your view of the Otis "issue" lol. The only problem I see is that O. should claim that the guys had to know because of Dennis's problems.
I don't see however, how "The Temptations" and "The Temptations Revue" could be considered one and the same group. But I guess that's a matter of interpretation.
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Post by Melody on Nov 12, 2007 18:15:37 GMT -5
(((SweetSoulMusic)))), I don't see how (((Otis)) could claim that the guys had to know, because of Dennis's problems. It had been long established in court that (((Dennis))) could use the name "Temptations Review". I don't think Otis can put the responsibility on the group "Legendary Lead Singers of the Temptations". Once again I say it was Otis' responsibility to protect the name right away if he had any problems with it being used. As we know, we don't live in a perfect world, so we all have to protect our interests and speak up immediately, so there is no misunderstandings. TTYL!
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Post by AnnaK on Nov 12, 2007 19:30:16 GMT -5
I, too, wonder why he waited so long. Maybe his lawyers just now found a backdoor to sneak in ...
I also think that it is perfectly legitimate for the guys to call themselves "Reunion." After all the definition of the word makes it very clear that it is "a party of former associates who have come together again" (definition) and not the originals; there's no intention of misleading people involved in using that name. The same is the case with attaching "Revue" to the name Temptations. Again, the definition of the word "Revue" states clearly that the group presents "a variety show [with topical sketches and songs and dancing and comedians]" using Temptations material, imo.
I'm really anxious to see what becomes of the whole matter ...
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Post by lindyloo on Mar 20, 2009 14:11:57 GMT -5
Otis has always been about financial success, and thats a good thing, just don't step on the ones who has helped you to achieve it. Just take a mental picture and begin removing every guy who sang in the Temptations from around Otis, you are left with just a man named Otis williams.
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Post by janebse on Mar 21, 2009 16:51:06 GMT -5
Every one protects his/her name, every company, institution/organization, brand, icon, logo, or whatever is associated with their success or identity. Otis would be a fool not to take action to protect The Temptations name and identity.
I am always appalled that someone will sing with the Tempts and then leave and expect to use the Temptations' name/identity to further their individual career.
My motto is to make one'sown name noteworthy, and there will be no problem. Don't try to steal another identity which has been proven successful.
Try drawing Mickey Mouse and watch Disney act. Johnny Carson sued because a car franchise put his picture in their window.
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Post by cliogirl on Jun 3, 2010 9:18:18 GMT -5
~~I LOVE ALL THE TEMPTATIONS,"ONCE A TEMP, ALWAYS A TEMP"~~ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC.....
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