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Post by iratherlikeme on Mar 6, 2003 23:27:49 GMT -5
How long has Otis been signing paychecks?
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Post by Aba21 on Mar 6, 2003 23:52:03 GMT -5
I want to say since it got down to just him and Melvin from the originals. But I may be wrong. He coulod have been doing it longer than that and probably was.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 7, 2003 0:07:28 GMT -5
mikey is not an otis hater- he includes ...... he doesn't like ......but mike feels Sukka, how much is Mike paying you to be his press secretary. ;D ........ sorry, I couldn't help it. Well how does Ron fit into that category? ..... he has proven to be more than just "eye candy". Ron is eye candy? .......... darn it! That one slipped out too! I am being BAD tonight! no, david sea was with the group of dennis, david, and eddie. ...... mike knows for sure.
As do seafan, Kalisa and Ivory to name a few. What I don't understand is one: How and why are we bashing either group or anybody who has been in the Otis group or any other re-creation of the Temptations? ...... None of us know all the business problems that exisited between Otis and the people who worked for him.
THANK YOU! I have never heard Ron, or Glenn say they were better or even as good as Eddie. I can't speak for DamonWell, since I am Damon Harris' press secretary's press secretary ;D I can vouch for him. He'd NEVER say he was better than Eddie. Whether he'd say he was better than Glen or Ron ........... well, that's another story.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 7, 2003 0:08:43 GMT -5
YOU, Aba, strike a beautiful balance we should all strive for. HEY!!! What about me!!!
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 7, 2003 0:52:21 GMT -5
No, I meant about the Temptations/Review thing. That is the name of his group you know.
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Post by MikeNYC on Mar 7, 2003 3:10:18 GMT -5
Sukka pays attention. I don't hate Otis,he is a Hall Of Fame Member Of The Temptations! I have said that over and over again! You see his face every time you see my post. I don't do things like that for someone I hate! I give him credit for still being there. I am familiar with their songs,and what they can do. What I want for O's crew is to have a chance to make a name for themselves.They have good songs,sing them. I have delt with changes in The Temptations since 1968 I know what they did to help get the changes accepted,sing the current songs and try and stay away from some of the songs made before the changes took place as much as you can. As far as the way the group was portrayed,I have a problem with it. I have stated my differences on that subject many times on this board. That's not hate.I just don't spend any money on them. That does not mean I don't listen to their songs ,or see their concerts. I just don't go out of my way. I wouldn't pay to see the Four Tops either,unless Levi is there. I would pay to see Theo..if Theo would be Theo,not Theo be Levi....or David .That don't mean I hate Theo. The man can SING! I can't help the way things went down in the group,and I know the story that was not told as well as the story told. In order for me to do that,how can I be "hateing",or closedminded? Just tellin' the truth. What do I always say,Look At All Sides,Open Yourself Up To More Than One Source Of Information. You can't do that and be a "HATER" too!
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Post by sukkafu on Mar 7, 2003 4:01:14 GMT -5
ABA, you did a nice job of can't we all get along 1992 rodney king style.you are a true moderate.
ivory, i am as much of a press secretary as you are a secretary.
as far as balance goes, when you're sipping those hot toddies, i don't see you being very well balanced at all!
mike, people on this board don't like negativity, and according to them ,if you have a less than dreamy bo is so cute idol worship, then you are negative. the folks that post the unpopular opinions are then subject to angry hurtful comments that are exactly what the people accuse us of doing. remember jane was misinterpreted and attacked.men are in the minority on this board, so we'd better be careful or we'll get custom cigar boxes and purses thrown at us!
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 7, 2003 11:09:27 GMT -5
I would pay to see Theo..if Theo would be Theo,not Theo be Levi....or David I'm not sure what you mean. Theo sings the leads we are all used to hearing Levi sing, but I don't think he's TRYING to be Levi. He doesn't sound anything like him and I don't think he's trying to............... But I bet you already knew that? mike, people on this board don't like negativity,No, it's not that we don't like negativity. I agree with you and Mike, I don't think Mike HATES Otis. Mike's too sweet of a guy to hate anyone. But I do think he's overly critical of Otis and, like Kim and Dallas, I'm not crazy about the fact that he's so critical of the Tempts when he's never seen them perform in person. If after seeing them, he still had the same opinion, I wouldn't have a problem. the folks that post the unpopular opinions are then subject to angry hurtful commentsWhen did I EVER call you anything remotely close to "Bloatis" ........... oh well, I guess there was the dog thing, and I'm sorry, but I only want (((((you))))) to stand up and be your own man and not come across like a mouth-piece for other folks and that's how you sound sometimes. so we'd better be careful or we'll get custom cigar boxes and purses thrown at us! Ha ha!!! Well, not until I get it finished!
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Post by MikeNYC on Mar 7, 2003 16:56:22 GMT -5
I just tell the truth. That's why they sing medley's now .I must know what I'm talking about.You can highlight whatever I say but you can't get around the fact that I am right.No matter how I say it,I'm right. That comes with years of experence in seeing the group and you have a lot of catching up to do! Even if I saw O's crew yesterday,you would STILL have a problem with what I say .Which is OK by me. I'm not overly critical,just perfectly blunt. There have been others on this board who are overly critical about the HOF 6 and have NEVER seen as much of them as I have seen of O's boys ,so where is the critical cop then ? Don't need them,I can handle my own business. I could sit down with you at an O show and SHOW you the things that I talk about in my posts. But I would wait untill the show's over to tell you and not be a "PLAY BY PLAY MAN" during the show . You underestimate my knowledge of Otis's group,too bad. Just because I don't spend money with them don't mean I don't know what's going on with them . And YOU Can't get around that! Now you MUST come with something better that that WEAK stuff you putting out there. The FURTHER YOU LOOK,THE LESS YOU SEE. You Got a Do A Whole Lot To Catch Up With Mikey! And Time is running out !
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Post by MikeNYC on Mar 7, 2003 17:12:31 GMT -5
And another thing,I say how I feel about this issue,never held back,so why do we still get on this subject? The WALL is still standing,I think you just like banging you head up against the wall. You can't get over it ,under it,around it or through it,so you waste time trying to get past the wall. Ya can't. Heck at one point you were given actors more respect than the people they played,and they can't carry a tune with a U-Haul truck! And I'm too critical? (Laughter fills the room) Get Real! One thing for sure,I'm Telling the Turth now work around that ,if you dare ! I don't close my mind to one source. No matter how many cuss words they use! I hope that this is a done deal! If it's not,then I still have asprin for the head against the wall bashers,take two and call me in the morning!
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 8, 2003 0:49:00 GMT -5
Even if I saw O's crew yesterday,you would STILL have a problem with what I say .No Mikey, I PROMISE I would not. I have NO problem at all with informed decisions. It's the UNINFORMED ones I don't like. I could sit down with you at an O show And if you had ever been with me to "an O show" you would know ........... THAT I DO NOT SIT DOWN. And another thing,I say how I feel about this issue,never held back,so why do we still get on this subject? Because YOU keep bringing it up. Heck at one point you were given actors more respect than the people they playeduh ........... no
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Post by sukkafu on Mar 8, 2003 0:50:45 GMT -5
well, i have seen the 3.5 tempts for one show. one show is not going to make my mind up for me. i appreciate that o tried to put on a good show-they were good. with no bass it and 3 dancers it didn't have the same feel as a tempts show.
i really want to do 2 things-see the tempts, the review, and have mikey and ive and aba and all the rest in the audience doing our dance! then we can compare and come up with plusses and minuses.
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Post by Ivory Fair on Mar 8, 2003 0:52:25 GMT -5
Sukka, even if O hadn't been sitting on that stool they STILL would have only had 3 dancers. ;D Hee, hee. I'm being bad again. Sorry. What is "our dance" I wasn't aware we had one.
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Post by sukkafu on Mar 8, 2003 1:21:15 GMT -5
we'd be in the conga line behind you !
or we'd do the tempts walk like mike and aba!
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Post by MikeNYC on Mar 8, 2003 1:24:50 GMT -5
If that's the case,you should NEVER have a problem with what I say . Only subject that you talk about that I'm uninformed in is....EYECANDY....and the actors of the mini-series! THAT'S IT ! I haven't gone to a SIXERS game this year,does that mean that I'm uninformed about them ? HECK NO ! So that title doesn't apply to me ! At least Otis thinks I know what I'm talking about,and a lot of folks on this board agree.You STILL gotta lot of work to do to catch up to me. THE WALL IS STILL INTACT ! Stop banging your head on it,it ain't going nowhere! LISTEN TO THE .....MEDELY......... ;D Uninformed,you got jokes !
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