Elbridge
Tempt Fanatic
Elbridge "Al" Bryant
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Post by Elbridge on Aug 12, 2005 16:33:39 GMT -5
((Ed)), I am sorry, but I have to correct you! O. didn't laugh -- he cried. Oops! I guess that makes him look weak  Alright. He laughed.  LOL!! Nice comeback, Inge! Ed |
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Elbridge
Tempt Fanatic
Elbridge "Al" Bryant
Posts: 28
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Post by Elbridge on Aug 12, 2005 16:36:16 GMT -5
I also hereby simply refuse to take anything said on a message forum seriously. More than a few of us here could stand to join me in that one. Set that to music...LOL!
Now, where's my violin...
Ed
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Post by MissTara on Aug 12, 2005 18:23:29 GMT -5
 This is much better than a violin Ed. Relieves more stress this way! |
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 20:09:59 GMT -5
This is much better than a violin Ed. Relieves more stress this way! I hope that's not your momma, ((Tara))! |
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Post by davidruffinlover on Aug 12, 2005 21:36:18 GMT -5
I also hereby simply refuse to take anything said on a message forum seriously. More than a few of us here could stand to join me in that one. Set that to music...LOL! Now, where's my violin... Ed Gonna go with that from now on, nice post Ed =D |
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 21:57:34 GMT -5
I agree. Some people just have a weird sense of humor.
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Post by rockinrobin on Aug 12, 2005 22:15:01 GMT -5
This is much better than a violin Ed. Relieves more stress this way! I hope that's not your momma, ((Tara))! |
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Post by tabby on Aug 12, 2005 22:29:59 GMT -5
I hope that's not your momma, ((Tara))! I was just kidding ... looks like someone playing guitarin a very weird way. |
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Post by tabby on Aug 13, 2005 11:16:31 GMT -5
I simply refuse to have my right to free speech curtailed.
... And I refuse to serve as the punch ball for someone who glorifies a man he knows is a snitch and has betrayed a mutual friend.
If I had been told what Aba has been by an Ex Temptation, I wouldn't have gone public either with that knowledge in order to protect that friend from big O's wrath. But I neither would have continued building a statue to a man about whose less than ethical behavior I had been informed by this trusted friend.
Being quiet about someone's little secrets is fine, but lecturing other people about how to "behave" towards such a dubiuos hero to avoid hurting this man's feelings goes a little too far -- especially if the target of these moral lectures shares some knowledge of the goin-ons with me.
I will not be told who I should adore!
(Yes, I could give the name of the friend, and even if you guys on this board don't believe it, he would know who is being talked about.)
Now, go ahead and call me all the names you can come up with ... It's open season, since Ivory is not here to "put a cork on it," to use your own words.
Then go ahead and give speeches to school children, but not to me. You don't have the right to lecture other adults on correct behavior.
Love, Peace, and Happiness to each and everyone who cares for these heavenly gifts!
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Post by tabby on Aug 13, 2005 11:48:04 GMT -5
I realize this is addressed mostly for Aba's attention, but... Not to put too fine a point on it, but no one has ever "told you who you should adore". You have been told time after time that you are welcome to your own opinions. You have been ASKED to "put a cork in" your constant snide digs at the object of your antipathy, this "dubious character" you mention ... not so much out of respect or veneration for Otis but out of respect for the feelings of those posters here who do not share in that antipathy. They as well as you have a right to their opinions and feelings. We here love the Temptations. Like it or not, Otis is was and always will be a Temptation. Yeah, more than the Temptations themselves. |
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Post by Coey on Aug 13, 2005 12:07:35 GMT -5
I realize this is addressed mostly for Aba's attention, but... Not to put too fine a point on it, but no one has ever "told you who you should adore". You have been told time after time that you are welcome to your own opinions. You have been ASKED to "put a cork in" your constant snide digs at the object of your antipathy, this "dubious character" you mention ... not so much out of respect or veneration for Otis but out of respect for the feelings of those posters here who do not share in that antipathy. They as well as you have a right to their opinions and feelings. We here love the Temptations. Like it or not, Otis is was and always will be a Temptation. Yeah, more than the Temptations themselves. LOOK... IF you got something personal to say to Aba.. about whatever... take it to IM's!! Dont put it on the board AK!!! |
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Post by rockinrobin on Aug 13, 2005 16:29:23 GMT -5
I simply refuse to have my right to free speech curtailed. ... And I refuse to serve as the punch ball for someone who glorifies a man he knows is a snitch and has betrayed a mutual friend. I will not be told who I should adore! (sigh)...First...no one is trying to curtail your free speech. You are welcome to say whatever you wish, just find an appropriate place for it. That is just common courtesy. Second...No one has been glorifying Otis, just trying to get you to stop villifying him and blaming him for everything that went wrong in all the lives of the other Temptations. A snitch? The WORLD knew plenty about David Ruffin's substance abuse and wife-beating propensities before Otis ever even met Patricia Romanowski. Perhaps you don't know this because you have not been a Tempt's fan for that long, but even while he was still with the group he was known to be trouble...that has nothing to do with Otis. David's legal problems and drug battles and issues with his women were reported in the media long before Otis got the idea to write a book. Paul's drinking problem was no secret, but I don't think the world knew about his failing health...is this the dreaded secret you think needed to be kept silent? I have read most of the Motown-related books out there and every single one of them mentions problems within the Temptations, and most of them specifically mention David as being a problem. Otis had nothing to do with that. Denying that Otis was not the responsible party is not by any means "glorifying" him. If anyone indulges in glorifying anyone, it is you worshipping David. I think that David had some less-than-favorable personality quirks that would render him unworshippable. I would rather adore someone for being a responsible member of a group than to worship and vehemently defend a man who was on many occasions violent toward women and a very irresponsible adult. It is obviously that you have never had your head caved in by your husband or you might think twice about whom you choose to defend. I don't think any one is making you to be a punch ball. But your refusal to "learn" the truth or even tolerate a different opinion to your own makes you an easy target. If you don't want to be a target, don't make yourself one. You get what you ask for. And shall I assume that the "broken ribs" comment was directed at me? |
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Post by tabby on Aug 13, 2005 18:13:36 GMT -5
I simply refuse to have my right to free speech curtailed. ... And I refuse to serve as the punch ball for someone who glorifies a man he knows is a snitch and has betrayed a mutual friend. I will not be told who I should adore! (sigh)...First...no one is trying to curtail your free speech. You are welcome to say whatever you wish, just find an appropriate place for it. That is just common courtesy. Second...No one has been glorifying Otis, just trying to get you to stop villifying him and blaming him for everything that went wrong in all the lives of the other Temptations. A snitch? The WORLD knew plenty about David Ruffin's substance abuse and wife-beating propensities before Otis ever even met Patricia Romanowski. Perhaps you don't know this because you have not been a Tempt's fan for that long, but even while he was still with the group he was known to be trouble...that has nothing to do with Otis. David's legal problems and drug battles and issues with his women were reported in the media long before Otis got the idea to write a book. Paul's drinking problem was no secret, but I don't think the world knew about his failing health...is this the dreaded secret you think needed to be kept silent? I have read most of the Motown-related books out there and every single one of them mentions problems within the Temptations, and most of them specifically mention David as being a problem. Otis had nothing to do with that. Denying that Otis was not the responsible party is not by any means "glorifying" him. If anyone indulges in glorifying anyone, it is you worshipping David. I think that David had some less-than-favorable personality quirks that would render him unworshippable. I would rather adore someone for being a responsible member of a group than to worship and vehemently defend a man who was on many occasions violent toward women and a very irresponsible adult. It is obviously that you have never had your head caved in by your husband or you might think twice about whom you choose to defend. I don't think any one is making you to be a punch ball. But your refusal to "learn" the truth or even tolerate a different opinion to your own makes you an easy target. If you don't want to be a target, don't make yourself one. You get what you ask for. And shall I assume that the "broken ribs" comment was directed at me? No, the broken ribs were not directd at you ... I forget to mention that I also refuse to be counseled by someone who apparently has not a good hand at picking the right men. That description would rather fit Brunnen's looser category ... Not everyone who calls you dahlin' and sweetheart in public uses the same flattering names for you in private. |
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Post by MissTara on Aug 13, 2005 18:57:55 GMT -5
(sigh)...First...no one is trying to curtail your free speech. You are welcome to say whatever you wish, just find an appropriate place for it. That is just common courtesy. Second...No one has been glorifying Otis, just trying to get you to stop villifying him and blaming him for everything that went wrong in all the lives of the other Temptations. A snitch? The WORLD knew plenty about David Ruffin's substance abuse and wife-beating propensities before Otis ever even met Patricia Romanowski. Perhaps you don't know this because you have not been a Tempt's fan for that long, but even while he was still with the group he was known to be trouble...that has nothing to do with Otis. David's legal problems and drug battles and issues with his women were reported in the media long before Otis got the idea to write a book. Paul's drinking problem was no secret, but I don't think the world knew about his failing health...is this the dreaded secret you think needed to be kept silent? I have read most of the Motown-related books out there and every single one of them mentions problems within the Temptations, and most of them specifically mention David as being a problem. Otis had nothing to do with that. Denying that Otis was not the responsible party is not by any means "glorifying" him. If anyone indulges in glorifying anyone, it is you worshipping David. I think that David had some less-than-favorable personality quirks that would render him unworshippable. I would rather adore someone for being a responsible member of a group than to worship and vehemently defend a man who was on many occasions violent toward women and a very irresponsible adult. It is obviously that you have never had your head caved in by your husband or you might think twice about whom you choose to defend. I don't think any one is making you to be a punch ball. But your refusal to "learn" the truth or even tolerate a different opinion to your own makes you an easy target. If you don't want to be a target, don't make yourself one. You get what you ask for. And shall I assume that the "broken ribs" comment was directed at me? No, the broken ribs were not directd at you ... I forget to mention that I also refuse to be counseled by someone who apparently has not a good hand at picking the right men. That description would rather fit Brunnen's looser category ... Not everyone who calls you dahlin' and sweetheart in public uses the same flattering names for you in private. Oh come on you two, that's enough.  1.) It's Anna's right to "worship" anybody she chooses, just as it is Anna's right to wonder why we worship Dennis or any other Temptation for that matter. It doesn't matter where we read, learn, or whom we talk to, there WAS some good in David. Even the negative stuff you know about David whether it be wife beating, drugs, a typical butthole, whatever, She finds the good in him (as I do, Genna's book made me feel no different)-- You should repect her as a fellow temptation fan. 2.) What does her bad choice in men have to do with anything? First of all, dahlin' is a term that I practically invented, so I hope that wasn't about me. Again, that too is besides the point. You all need to take the beef somewhere else. Obviously, it not only saddens me, but everyone else in here. Otherwise, nobody would be so quiet about it. Now like I said PRIVATELY last night, kiss and make up already! If you can't see eye to eye (which we ALL know) let it go. |
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Post by MissTara on Aug 13, 2005 19:27:32 GMT -5
K2, that comment was directed to both. I can sympathize with ((Grams)) in her feeling. I did it too myself for a very long time. The only difference is, I learned that just because I felt a certain way about a certain temptation, doesn't mean we all do. I am not a person to deliberately hurt someone else's feelings by saying something extremely negative about a certain temptation (anymore).... I wouldn't want everyone dogging on me either.
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