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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 26, 2005 7:42:46 GMT -5
Well then we are back to handcuffs til school closes and then IMO, a suspension until the mother can come in for a meeting. How does that sound? That's what I've been asking for... some logical conclusion as to what the school can/should be able to do, absent the parent's willingness/ability to come get the child. And why I have said I'm 'up in the air' about the handcuffs. I felt some form of restraint was necessary. |
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Post by mcribs on Apr 26, 2005 7:46:17 GMT -5
That's what I've been asking for... some logical conclusion as to what the school can/should be able to do, absent the parent's willingness/ability to come get the child. And why I have said I'm 'up in the air' about the handcuffs. I felt some form of restraint was necessary. I didn't have any problem with this from the get-go. If you have an out-of-control child, someone needs to let the child know some limits and if the parents can't be bothered, the school has to do something. All I know is, if I was the parent in this case, I would be too humiliated to even attempt to sue. NOBODY has ever had to discipline one of my kids, even the bad one!  |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 7:48:36 GMT -5
nOT TO MENTION AGAINST THE "LAW" If you thought that could happen........would you bring your ass home form work......or go up to the school to get your child? I ain't scared of the law.........we can change the law!!! ;D ;D ;D I'd make a hell of a principal, wouldn't I? Me and Joe Clark!!! ;D |
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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 26, 2005 7:54:45 GMT -5
With a no nonsense policy, you eliminate all the confusion and arguments and hoo rah rah!!! I tell you to come..........you say no......I restrain the child the best way I can without hurting the child..........period......then I send him home not to darken my school's doorway til you come back with him. How clear is that?  There ya go. |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 8:23:26 GMT -5
NOBODY has ever had to discipline one of my kids, even the bad one!  My brother right?  |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 8:24:41 GMT -5
If you thought that could happen........would you bring your ass home form work......or go up to the school to get your child? I ain't scared of the law.........we can change the law!!! ;D ;D ;D I'd make a hell of a principal, wouldn't I? Me and Joe Clark!!! ;D To be honest with you, I'd probably beat her butt while we were still at school. |
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Post by mcribs on Apr 26, 2005 8:30:57 GMT -5
My brother right? Of course, Poopsie. Both of my daughters are very well behaved.  |
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Post by Debbie on Apr 26, 2005 8:36:39 GMT -5
There ya go. APPLAUSE - APPLAUSE ABA!!!! I SO AGREE with everything you have had to say and I like you - raised my Daughter the same way! First off - the Child that was handcuffed - was OUT OF CONTROL - and was not going to stop her behavior. Now you think that once that Child saw the POLICE walk in - she would have shown some fear. She showed no fear - which means she has no respect for authority at FIVE YEARS OLD! And now with her Parent making such an issue out of it - this Child will think that her behavior is okay. The Mother was shown on the Today show this morning talking about the incident - and the Child sitting right there - which is telling the Child she was in the right. I have a grown Daughter. I raised her like Aba has raised his Children. Whenever incorrect behavior was displayed by her was STOPPED the first time she did it. She then knew she BETTER NOT DO IT AGAIN! I never BEAT my Child - and have only had to pop her maybe 3 times the entire time of her growing up. All I had to do was give her "THE LOOK" and she knew!!! I am only 5'2 and weigh about 100 pounds - and never had a problem. As my Daughter became a teenager - she grew to be 5'8. She knew that if I had to stand on a chair to take her out - I would if I had too. I am old school too - and was raised old school. It was a standing joke about my Mother - who was only 5' tall. She could stand on the porch - throw her slipper - hit you upside your head - and the slipper would come back to her. Aba is correct - these Kid's need to know right off the bat what behavior is not acceptable. I never had any problems with my Daughter - could take her anywhere with NO BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS! No problems as a teenager either. She is married with Children of her own now - is a Firefighter and a EMT - and also has her own Bookkeeping Business. |
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Post by brunneng on Apr 26, 2005 8:47:12 GMT -5
APPLAUSE - APPLAUSE ABA!!!! I SO AGREE with everything you have had to say and I like you - raised my Daughter the same way! First off - the Child that was handcuffed - was OUT OF CONTROL - and was not going to stop her behavior. Now you think that once that Child saw the POLICE walk in - she would have shown some fear. She showed no fear - which means she has no respect for authority at FIVE YEARS OLD! And now with her Parent making such an issue out of it - this Child will think that her behavior is okay. The Mother was shown on the Today show this morning talking about the incident - and the Child sitting right there - which is telling the Child she was in the right. I have a grown Daughter. I raised her like Aba has raised his Children. Whenever incorrect behavior was displayed by her was STOPPED the first time she did it. She then knew she BETTER NOT DO IT AGAIN! I never BEAT my Child - and have only had to pop her maybe 3 times the entire time of her growing up. All I had to do was give her "THE LOOK" and she knew!!! I am only 5'2 and weigh about 100 pounds - and never had a problem. As my Daughter became a teenager - she grew to be 5'8. She knew that if I had to stand on a chair to take her out - I would if I had too. I am old school too - and was raised old school. It was a standing joke about my Mother - who was only 5' tall. She could stand on the porch - throw her slipper - hit you upside your head - and the slipper would come back to her. Aba is correct - these Kid's need to know right off the bat what behavior is not acceptable. I never had any problems with my Daughter - could take her anywhere with NO BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS! No problems as a teenager either. She is married with Children of her own now - is a Firefighter and a EMT - and also has her own Bookkeeping Business. Right on Deb! We are having a lot of trouble with my nephew! He got in trouble for sleeping with his teacher! The problem: He's home schooled! ;D For the no sense of humor crowd.......that's a joke! |
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Post by Gua on Apr 26, 2005 9:09:23 GMT -5
APPLAUSE - APPLAUSE ABA!!!! I SO AGREE with everything you have had to say and I like you - raised my Daughter the same way! First off - the Child that was handcuffed - was OUT OF CONTROL - and was not going to stop her behavior. Now you think that once that Child saw the POLICE walk in - she would have shown some fear. She showed no fear - which means she has no respect for authority at FIVE YEARS OLD! And now with her Parent making such an issue out of it - this Child will think that her behavior is okay. The Mother was shown on the Today show this morning talking about the incident - and the Child sitting right there - which is telling the Child she was in the right. I have a grown Daughter. I raised her like Aba has raised his Children. Whenever incorrect behavior was displayed by her was STOPPED the first time she did it. She then knew she BETTER NOT DO IT AGAIN! I never BEAT my Child - and have only had to pop her maybe 3 times the entire time of her growing up. All I had to do was give her "THE LOOK" and she knew!!! I am only 5'2 and weigh about 100 pounds - and never had a problem. As my Daughter became a teenager - she grew to be 5'8. She knew that if I had to stand on a chair to take her out - I would if I had too. I am old school too - and was raised old school. It was a standing joke about my Mother - who was only 5' tall. She could stand on the porch - throw her slipper - hit you upside your head - and the slipper would come back to her. Aba is correct - these Kid's need to know right off the bat what behavior is not acceptable. I never had any problems with my Daughter - could take her anywhere with NO BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS! No problems as a teenager either. She is married with Children of her own now - is a Firefighter and a EMT - and also has her own Bookkeeping Business. debbie, You saw the mother and her child this morning also. I agree with your assessment and I've already gone on record agreeing with Aba. "Spare the rod spoil the child"...all children need boundaries and discipline |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 9:34:46 GMT -5
Of course, Poopsie. Both of my daughters are very well behaved. Thanks momma |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 10:56:44 GMT -5
To be honest with you, I'd probably beat her butt while we were still at school. My mother sure as hell would! ;D Debbie I see you understand the I brought you in this world and I can take you out system!!!! ;D |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 11:23:06 GMT -5
APPLAUSE - APPLAUSE ABA!!!! I SO AGREE with everything you have had to say and I like you - raised my Daughter the same way! First off - the Child that was handcuffed - was OUT OF CONTROL - and was not going to stop her behavior. Now you think that once that Child saw the POLICE walk in - she would have shown some fear. She showed no fear - which means she has no respect for authority at FIVE YEARS OLD! And now with her Parent making such an issue out of it - this Child will think that her behavior is okay. The Mother was shown on the Today show this morning talking about the incident - and the Child sitting right there - which is telling the Child she was in the right. I have a grown Daughter. I raised her like Aba has raised his Children. Whenever incorrect behavior was displayed by her was STOPPED the first time she did it. She then knew she BETTER NOT DO IT AGAIN! I never BEAT my Child - and have only had to pop her maybe 3 times the entire time of her growing up. All I had to do was give her "THE LOOK" and she knew!!! I am only 5'2 and weigh about 100 pounds - and never had a problem. As my Daughter became a teenager - she grew to be 5'8. She knew that if I had to stand on a chair to take her out - I would if I had too. I am old school too - and was raised old school. It was a standing joke about my Mother - who was only 5' tall. She could stand on the porch - throw her slipper - hit you upside your head - and the slipper would come back to her. Aba is correct - these Kid's need to know right off the bat what behavior is not acceptable. I never had any problems with my Daughter - could take her anywhere with NO BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS! No problems as a teenager either. She is married with Children of her own now - is a Firefighter and a EMT - and also has her own Bookkeeping Business. Thats good for you that you are fortunate enough to have a child/children like that. My daughter is the same way, I hardly ever have popped her for something. She knows by the look on my face whether or not to do something. I have done no different with my son. My son is hard headed. (Still my baby boy though) Lets call him "B" "B" does what "B" is gonna do, how "B" wants to, when "B" wants to regardless of the consequences. His brain thinks "I'm going to do this now because I want to, I will suffer later." Spankings are an almost daily event. Yes I know, if he hasn't learned from that then I need to try something else, which I have. He's had a room with nothing but 4 walls and a bed, still "B" does what "B" is gonna do, and suffer later. It was that way for 2 months. no TV no toys, not even a sock to play with. I'll stop here before I get even more carried away |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 15:10:05 GMT -5
Thats good for you that you are fortunate enough to have a child/children like that. My daughter is the same way, I hardly ever have popped her for something. She knows by the look on my face whether or not to do something. I have done no different with my son. My son is hard headed. (Still my baby boy though) Lets call him "B" "B" does what "B" is gonna do, how "B" wants to, when "B" wants to regardless of the consequences. His brain thinks "I'm going to do this now because I want to, I will suffer later." Spankings are an almost daily event. Yes I know, if he hasn't learned from that then I need to try something else, which I have. He's had a room with nothing but 4 walls and a bed, still "B" does what "B" is gonna do, and suffer later. It was that way for 2 months. no TV no toys, not even a sock to play with. I'll stop here before I get even more carried away The key is to show B he ain't gonna win thsi war........he may win a couple of battles but ultimately you will win the war..............you can't quit and youcan't get discouraged............you will overcome!!!! ;D |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 27, 2005 5:52:30 GMT -5
The key is to show B he ain't gonna win thsi war........he may win a couple of battles but ultimately you will win the war..............you can't quit and youcan't get discouraged............you will overcome!!!! ;D I'm trying Big Daddy... I will triumph! ;D |
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