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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 25, 2005 20:24:48 GMT -5
When I taught in Charlotte Mecklenburg Schools, on many occasions I had children in my classroom that behaved very much like that little girl did. There were times that I looked for three 6s in their scalps and I wanted to call in an Exorcist  LOL!!! I know exactly what you mean (was tempted to check my own kids scalp on occasion LOL!) THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who saw the teacher/administrator as the one handcuffed the longest here... metaphorically but still handcuffed. I'm sorry... what is BEH/BED?  |
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Post by Gua on Apr 25, 2005 20:35:55 GMT -5
BEH = Behavior emotional Handicap BED = Behavior emotional Disturbed Please correct if my memory has failed me.  |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 5:05:59 GMT -5
I agree with that. However, in this particular case, the parent refused to come... couldn't get off work until 3 p.m. (we don't know what time it was), couldn't be there until 3:15. I'm assuming that was at least a couple hours away. I don't want to hear about can't get off. That's the problem. This is an emergency with your child!!! Get your butt over there. And in so doing the child will realize you ain't gonna be running back and forth to her school. THe school should send the child home until that parent comes in. You do it enough, the message sinks in not only to the child but to the parent. If the parents don't want you to say or do anything to thier child, then they have to come in and deal with the problem........period. We can clear a lot of the rhetoric out of the way and stop confusing everybody with laws and rules that are not clear. I have no problem with the school disciplining my child. Just like in most schools, there is a no tolerance fighting rule..........both kids get sent home. I still told my son to protect himself and I accept the penalty for the fight. |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 6:00:17 GMT -5
Once again! Looked down on by who? Society. Me. Absolutely. Thats why I got angry at the woman who accused me. |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 6:02:20 GMT -5
I don't want to hear about can't get off. That's the problem. This is an emergency with your child!!! Get your butt over there. And in so doing the child will realize you ain't gonna be running back and forth to her school. THe school should send the child home until that parent comes in. You do it enough, the message sinks in not only to the child but to the parent. If the parents don't want you to say or do anything to thier child, then they have to come in and deal with the problem........period. We can clear a lot of the rhetoric out of the way and stop confusing everybody with laws and rules that are not clear. I have no problem with the school disciplining my child. Just like in most schools, there is a no tolerance fighting rule..........both kids get sent home. I still told my son to protect himself and I accept the penalty for the fight. Well nobody can judge the mother at this point because I dont think we know whether or not they told her that they had her 5 year old child hand cuffed or not. And if she did know it, then there's something wrong with her |
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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 26, 2005 6:42:19 GMT -5
Well nobody can judge the mother at this point because I dont think we know whether or not they told her that they had her 5 year old child hand cuffed or not. And if she did know it, then there's something wrong with herTara... the handcuffing came quite a while after her refusal to come get the child. Now, she didn't know that the handcuffing was a possibility, but she knew there was a problem that the school felt needed her immediate attention and removal of the child from the school. The child wouldn't have been handcuffed, nor the police even called, if mom had done what she needed to do (IMO) when the school called. What job on earth is more important than your children? I see in the news that she is now planning to sue. The report says "the parents", so we're not talking about a single mom, apparently. Unacceptible. |
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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 26, 2005 6:44:24 GMT -5
THe school should send the child home until that parent comes in. Send the child home with whom? Alone? I do have a problem with that. Everything else you said... agree entirely! |
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 6:53:02 GMT -5
Tara... the handcuffing came quite a while after her refusal to come get the child. Now, she didn't know that the handcuffing was a possibility, but she knew there was a problem that the school felt needed her immediate attention and removal of the child from the school. The child wouldn't have been handcuffed, nor the police even called, if mom had done what she needed to do (IMO) when the school called. What job on earth is more important than your children? I see in the news that she is now planning to sue. The report says "the parents", so we're not talking about a single mom, apparently. Unacceptible. Ok, I see your point on that issue. Again though, What job is so important you say? Its obvious to me that the kid is thriving for attention. Just look at the issue. Mom, nor dad would leave work to go get the child. Maybe she doesnt get the "proper" attention at home. I'm not judging the parents or anything, just trying to make sense out of why the girl did what she did. (Especially at 5) |
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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 26, 2005 7:02:25 GMT -5
Ok, I see your point on that issue. Again though, What job is so important you say? Its obvious to me that the kid is thriving for attention. Just look at the issue. Mom, nor dad would leave work to go get the child. Maybe she doesnt get the "proper" attention at home. I'm not judging the parents or anything, just trying to make sense out of why the girl did what she did. (Especially at 5) Well, I am judging the parents. Whatever caused the child to behave in that matter... it is their job and their problem to deal with. Kids are brats and act out sometimes. If they cede that job to the school (by refusing to come get her), where do their rights to dictate how the school handles it end? (within reason, and I'm not sure 'handcuffs' are within reason... but some form of restraint did seem called for...IMO.) |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 7:30:46 GMT -5
Send the child home with whom? Alone? I do have a problem with that. Everything else you said... agree entirely! That is not the school's problem. Why do you continue to want the onus on the school. THe onus is on the parent. Send his butt home and make the parent do something. It would only take one time sending the child home thaqt the parent would be up in arms. |
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Post by kalisa2 on Apr 26, 2005 7:34:05 GMT -5
That is not the school's problem. Why do you continue to want the onus on the school. THe onus is on the parent. Send his butt home and make the parent do something. It would only take one time sending the child home thaqt the parent would be up in arms. Not *I* putting the onus on the school... but yes a (possibly disturbed) 5 year old child sent home to an empty unsupervised house is everyone's problem including those who sent her there... IMO. That's endangering her. Maybe they should have sent the police to pick up Mom from her job instead of come get the child? |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 7:34:17 GMT -5
Tara... the handcuffing came quite a while after her refusal to come get the child. Now, she didn't know that the handcuffing was a possibility, but she knew there was a problem that the school felt needed her immediate attention and removal of the child from the school. The child wouldn't have been handcuffed, nor the police even called, if mom had done what she needed to do (IMO) when the school called. What job on earth is more important than your children? I see in the news that she is now planning to sue. The report says "the parents", so we're not talking about a single mom, apparently. Unacceptible. If she refused to com,e and get the child, then the school did what it had to, to get the child under control. At that point restaint was the call. To restrain the child without hurting the child is what they needed to do. I do not see another way to do that and not put your hands on the kid in some way shape or form. |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 7:36:13 GMT -5
Not *I* putting the onus on the school... but yes a (possibly disturbed) 5 year old child sent home to an empty unsupervised house is everyone's problem including those who sent her there... IMO. That's endangering her. Maybe they should have sent the police to pick up Mom from her job instead of come get the child? Well then we are back to handcuffs til school closes and then IMO, a suspension until the mother can come in for a meeting. How does that sound? |
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Post by Aba21 on Apr 26, 2005 7:41:05 GMT -5
With a no nonsense policy, you eliminate all the confusion and arguments and hoo rah rah!!! I tell you to come..........you say no......I restrain the child the best way I can without hurting the child..........period......then I send him home not to darken my school's doorway til you come back with him. How clear is that?
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Post by MissTara on Apr 26, 2005 7:41:42 GMT -5
Not *I* putting the onus on the school... but yes a (possibly disturbed) 5 year old child sent home to an empty unsupervised house is everyone's problem including those who sent her there... nOT TO MENTION AGAINST THE "LAW" |
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